Mongolian?

Radu Transylvanicus · 25th January 2006, 09:19 AM

Its definatelly not Mongolian, it is an Afghano-Pakistani Lohar. However this seems the most solid type, the non-composite, as in oposite of the folding type. I warn you, the effectiveness of the Lohar as a combat instrument has been highly debated, most people however agreed about the lack of lethality.
Andrew, you brought good memories to the table, that thread, that person, Smilodon Fatalis, fuhgetaboutit...

This is likely the most ornated Lohar I've seen so far!

Andrew · 25th January 2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Radu Transylvanicus

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Andrew, you brought good memories to the table, that thread, that person, Smilodon Fatalis, fuhgetaboutit...

lol. Smilodon was an interesting cat....

ham · 28th January 2006, 11:49 PM

Erlikhan,

This is very decorative work but not historically accurate and so subject to doubt-- the most general possible form of the lohar has been retained, but the workmanship itself is thoroughly contemporary. This includes the motifs, lavish use of precious metal and stones. By the same token, if the metal were to be revealed as plated brass and the stones as plastic, it would to no less an extent indicate modern work so distant is it from what it purports to represent. If you are in Istanbul, you will find numerous examples in the Grand Bazaar offered by the Central Asian contingent. Interestingly, the film TROY had many of its costumes and properties composed by the same shops, reputedly by Turkmen and Afghan refugees in Pakistan.

Ham

erlikhan · 1st February 2006, 07:14 AM

Thank you very much for all the info. I vote for being touristic too. There is one more picture of which is sent to me. It has folding mechanism,and is said to be sharp. Higher possibility of being authentic, not?

regards

Radu Transylvanicus · 1st February 2006, 07:27 AM

This things are interesting for shure but definatelly not fit for combat INMHO this is more of the Swiss army knife rather than the Japanese ninja kusarigama. Still I cant believe no one can tell certainly 100% what in the world were or are they used for (...steaming...) !

25th January 2006, 09:19 AM	#1
Radu Transylvanicus Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 2008-2010 Bali, 1998-2008 USA Posts: 271	Its definatelly not Mongolian, it is an Afghano-Pakistani Lohar. However this seems the most solid type, the non-composite, as in oposite of the folding type. I warn you, the effectiveness of the Lohar as a combat instrument has been highly debated, most people however agreed about the lack of lethality. Andrew, you brought good memories to the table, that thread, that person, Smilodon Fatalis, fuhgetaboutit... This is likely the most ornated Lohar I've seen so far! Last edited by Radu Transylvanicus; 25th January 2006 at 10:29 AM.

1st February 2006, 07:14 AM	#4
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	Thank you very much for all the info. I vote for being touristic too. There is one more picture of which is sent to me. It has folding mechanism,and is said to be sharp. Higher possibility of being authentic, not? regards Attached Images

1st February 2006, 07:27 AM	#5
Radu Transylvanicus Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 2008-2010 Bali, 1998-2008 USA Posts: 271	Can opener, pick axe or nose pick This things are interesting for shure but definatelly not fit for combat INMHO this is more of the Swiss army knife rather than the Japanese ninja kusarigama. Still I cant believe no one can tell certainly 100% what in the world were or are they used for (...steaming...) !

28th January 2006, 11:49 PM	#3
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	Erlikhan, This is very decorative work but not historically accurate and so subject to doubt-- the most general possible form of the lohar has been retained, but the workmanship itself is thoroughly contemporary. This includes the motifs, lavish use of precious metal and stones. By the same token, if the metal were to be revealed as plated brass and the stones as plastic, it would to no less an extent indicate modern work so distant is it from what it purports to represent. If you are in Istanbul, you will find numerous examples in the Grand Bazaar offered by the Central Asian contingent. Interestingly, the film TROY had many of its costumes and properties composed by the same shops, reputedly by Turkmen and Afghan refugees in Pakistan. Ham