auction house experience

estcrh · 26th March 2016, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by silberschatzimsee

Hi,

Has anyone experience with the auction house called czernys in italy? I am thinking of getting something tomorrow morning.

cheers
silberschatzimsee

I have purchased a couple of items in the past with no problems, do not forget the 20 plus percent auction fee, and the shipping, and customs tax depending on your location.

Battara · 26th March 2016, 03:08 AM

And please check with your country's laws regarding import of weaponry and ivory..........

silberschatzimsee · 26th March 2016, 03:53 PM

Thanks for your nice advice guys!

Next time i must prepare myself better though/fatten my piggy bank more.

All lots i liked went way beyond their upper valuation price. Must have been because its easter or something like that. Since i am only a beginner i was also not prepared to fight that hard for single pieces.

So i still have to wait for my first weapon purchase.

Gavin Nugent · 26th March 2016, 10:54 PM

Beware. There are many fakes, many composite pieces and many inaccurate descriptions. If something is not shown, ask for more images as there is often issues not shown...They also carry many fine and interesting items.

Sorry you missed your item.

Gavin

machinist · 27th March 2016, 12:07 AM

Do they take care of shipping or would I have to make arrangements? I miss out on European auctions because I worry and am a bit shy about shipping and language issues.

VANDOO · 27th March 2016, 12:33 AM

THE GOOD NEWS IS AUCTION PRICES ARE ALIVE AND WELL IN ITALY.

THE BAD NEWS IS YOU HAD BETTER HAVE VERY DEEP POCKETS IF YOU WANT TO BUY SOME OF THE ITEMS. FOR INSTANCE AN ITEM I BID ON WAS ESTIMATED AT 150 TO 200 EUROS, IT SOLD FOR 1400.00 EU. DON'T GET DISCOURAGED IF YOU ARE JUST STARTING COLLECTING AS I BID ON FIVE ITEMS AND DID NOT WIN ONE AND HAVE BEEN COLLECTING SINCE THE 1960'S. ITS A MATTER OF LUCK OR WANTING SOMETHING THE FELLOWS WITH UNLIMITED MONEY DON'T WANT OR DON'T SEE. KEEP TRYING AS A FEW CRUMBS DO FALL OFF THE BIG BOYS TABLE OCCASIONALLY.

estcrh · 27th March 2016, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by machinist

Do they take care of shipping or would I have to make arrangements? I miss out on European auctions because I worry and am a bit shy about shipping and language issues.

Read the fine print, shipping policys are usually posted, or just ask them by email.

CSinTX · 27th March 2016, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gavin Nugent

Beware. There are many fakes, many composite pieces and many inaccurate descriptions. If something is not shown, ask for more images as there is often issues not shown...for a company in business for so long I personally expect better...They also carry many fine and interesting items.

Sorry you missed your item.

Gavin

very accurate synopsis.

corrado26 · 28th March 2016, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CSinTX

very accurate synopsis.

this is the reason why I never buy in auctions since the beginning of my collecting now more than 50 years ago.
corrado26

A. G. Maisey · 28th March 2016, 10:40 PM

Auction purchase is fine, if you know what you're looking at and can handle it.

Purchase from selective photographs and descriptions written by people who do not know what they're looking at is never OK.

A couple of months ago, for the first time in about 20 years, I attended an auction of arms in Sydney. Many of the items offered I had sold to the previous owner of the goods on auction, and I did have a very good understanding of the nature, quality and market value of these items.

The prices realised were so high that they simply surpassed my understanding, most especially so when the 20% or 25% auctioneer's premium was added.

Many of these items were sold to buyers in other parts of Australia, and overseas, so those buyers were also hit with packing costs on top of the shipping.

I am coming to the opinion that traditional auctions have gone past their "use by date".

estcrh · 29th March 2016, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

this is the reason why I never buy in auctions since the beginning of my collecting now more than 50 years ago.
corrado26

You never bought anything from Ebay? There is not much difference between Ebay and an auction house except the buyers premium.

estcrh · 27th March 2016, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by silberschatzimsee

Thanks for your nice advice guys!

Next time i must prepare myself better though/fatten my piggy bank more.

All lots i liked went way beyond their upper valuation price.

What were you looking at?

Here are some things I was watching just for fun. Ottoman silahlik (weapons belt) 750 Euro / $830 US, Indian serated blade haladie 1700 Euro / $1898, Japanese kusari katabira and zukin (mail armor jacket and hood) 750 Euro / $830 US.

26th March 2016, 10:54 PM	#4
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Beware. There are many fakes, many composite pieces and many inaccurate descriptions. If something is not shown, ask for more images as there is often issues not shown...They also carry many fine and interesting items. Sorry you missed your item. Gavin Last edited by Ian; 29th March 2016 at 06:58 PM. Reason: PLease keep negative comments to more general discussion, and send specific comments via PM or email

26th March 2016, 03:08 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	And please check with your country's laws regarding import of weaponry and ivory..........

26th March 2016, 03:53 PM	#3
silberschatzimsee Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 90	Thanks for your nice advice guys! Next time i must prepare myself better though/fatten my piggy bank more. All lots i liked went way beyond their upper valuation price. Must have been because its easter or something like that. Since i am only a beginner i was also not prepared to fight that hard for single pieces. So i still have to wait for my first weapon purchase.

27th March 2016, 12:07 AM	#5
machinist Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 93	Do they take care of shipping or would I have to make arrangements? I miss out on European auctions because I worry and am a bit shy about shipping and language issues.

27th March 2016, 12:33 AM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE GOOD NEWS IS AUCTION PRICES ARE ALIVE AND WELL IN ITALY. THE BAD NEWS IS YOU HAD BETTER HAVE VERY DEEP POCKETS IF YOU WANT TO BUY SOME OF THE ITEMS. FOR INSTANCE AN ITEM I BID ON WAS ESTIMATED AT 150 TO 200 EUROS, IT SOLD FOR 1400.00 EU. DON'T GET DISCOURAGED IF YOU ARE JUST STARTING COLLECTING AS I BID ON FIVE ITEMS AND DID NOT WIN ONE AND HAVE BEEN COLLECTING SINCE THE 1960'S. ITS A MATTER OF LUCK OR WANTING SOMETHING THE FELLOWS WITH UNLIMITED MONEY DON'T WANT OR DON'T SEE. KEEP TRYING AS A FEW CRUMBS DO FALL OFF THE BIG BOYS TABLE OCCASIONALLY.

28th March 2016, 10:40 PM	#10
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Auction purchase is fine, if you know what you're looking at and can handle it. Purchase from selective photographs and descriptions written by people who do not know what they're looking at is never OK. A couple of months ago, for the first time in about 20 years, I attended an auction of arms in Sydney. Many of the items offered I had sold to the previous owner of the goods on auction, and I did have a very good understanding of the nature, quality and market value of these items. The prices realised were so high that they simply surpassed my understanding, most especially so when the 20% or 25% auctioneer's premium was added. Many of these items were sold to buyers in other parts of Australia, and overseas, so those buyers were also hit with packing costs on top of the shipping. I am coming to the opinion that traditional auctions have gone past their "use by date".