Yataghans

ariel · 22nd March 2016, 11:08 PM

What do you mean, - worn?

They are old and they earned every wrinkle, scar and spot:-)

Very good yats. Congratulations!!!

TVV · 22nd March 2016, 11:52 PM

Very nice yataghans Miguel, thank you for sharing. generally speaking, yataghans with big ears of walrus ivory are attributed to the Western Balkans. The first one is very typical, possibly made in Bosnia. The steel furniture on the scabbard is a little more unusual and could be a case of some Western influence.

The second yatghan has lovely silver band and bolsters, in a style associated with Greece. The scabbard with the reptile skin and the shiny brass chape looks to me like a more recent repair/replacement. The chape almost looks like something out of India/Afghanistan and it is possible the whole thing was put together with spare parts, as the reptile skin appears to be glued and not stitched.

Sincerely,
Teodor

Miguel · 25th March 2016, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TVV

Very nice yataghans Miguel, thank you for sharing. generally speaking, yataghans with big ears of walrus ivory are attributed to the Western Balkans. The first one is very typical, possibly made in Bosnia. The steel furniture on the scabbard is a little more unusual and could be a case of some Western influence.

The second yatghan has lovely silver band and bolsters, in a style associated with Greece. The scabbard with the reptile skin and the shiny brass chape looks to me like a more recent repair/replacement. The chape almost looks like something out of India/Afghanistan and it is possible the whole thing was put together with spare parts, as the reptile skin appears to be glued and not stitched.

Sincerely,
Teodor

Thank you for your comments Teodor I am much obliged for this information. I had a feeling myself about the scabbard of No 2 not being quite right and I think your comments re being put together with spare parts may well be the case, I have compared the chape with the ones on my Khyber Knife scabbards and they are similar.
You did not comment on the `Seal of Solomon` inscription and I would be grateful to learn whether it is talismanic or something else.
Regards
Miguel

estcrh · 26th March 2016, 06:42 AM

Is this scabbard old or new/newish?

Miguel · 27th March 2016, 02:15 PM

From it`s condition externaly and from the wooden liners I believe it to be old
Miguel

estcrh · 27th March 2016, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

From it`s condition externaly and from the wooden liners I believe it to be old
Miguel

If you have a better picture of the scabbard mounts I would like to see them. Here is another yatagan that is extremely similar to yours.

Miguel · 29th March 2016, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by estcrh

If you have a better picture of the scabbard mounts I would like to see them. Here is another yatagan that is extremely similar to yours.

I will try and take some better photos of the fittings for you but you may have to wait a day or two as I will have to retrieve it from its storage box in the loft but it wont be any problem. Your Yataghans and scabbard do look very similar and it will be interest to compare the scabbard fittings. I hope the photos will be good enough as I think you know I am pretty hopeless with the camera anyway I will do my best.
Regards
Miguel

TVV · 27th March 2016, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

You did not comment on the `Seal of Solomon` inscription and I would be grateful to learn whether it is talismanic or something else.
Regards
Miguel

Miguel,

The so-called seal of Solomon was actually quite common on yataghans. Its symbolism perhaps was a representation of the vastness of the universe. If you do a search, I believe there have been some discussions on its use and meaning in older threads.

Regards,
Teodor

Miguel · 29th March 2016, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TVV

Miguel,

The so-called seal of Solomon was actually quite common on yataghans. Its symbolism perhaps was a representation of the vastness of the universe. If you do a search, I believe there have been some discussions on its use and meaning in older threads.

Regards,
Teodor

Thanks Teodor, I am much obliged for the information.
Regards
Miguel

Miguel · 25th March 2016, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ariel

What do you mean, - worn?

They are old and they earned every wrinkle, scar and spot:-)

Very good yats. Congratulations!!!

Thanks Ariel I am pleased that you like them, have you any idea of how old they might be ?
Regards
Miguel

26th March 2016, 06:42 AM	#4
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,492	Is this scabbard old or new/newish? Attached Images

22nd March 2016, 11:08 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	What do you mean, - worn? They are old and they earned every wrinkle, scar and spot:-) Very good yats. Congratulations!!!

22nd March 2016, 11:52 PM	#2
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	Very nice yataghans Miguel, thank you for sharing. generally speaking, yataghans with big ears of walrus ivory are attributed to the Western Balkans. The first one is very typical, possibly made in Bosnia. The steel furniture on the scabbard is a little more unusual and could be a case of some Western influence. The second yatghan has lovely silver band and bolsters, in a style associated with Greece. The scabbard with the reptile skin and the shiny brass chape looks to me like a more recent repair/replacement. The chape almost looks like something out of India/Afghanistan and it is possible the whole thing was put together with spare parts, as the reptile skin appears to be glued and not stitched. Sincerely, Teodor

27th March 2016, 02:15 PM	#5
Miguel Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 584	From it`s condition externaly and from the wooden liners I believe it to be old Miguel