Grassi museum pictures

VANDOO · 15th March 2016, 05:38 AM

UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS A GROUP WHOSE HOBBY SEEMS TO BE FINDING SOMETHING PEOPLE HAVE ENJOYED FOR GENERATIONS AND MAKING IT POLITICALLY INCORRECT. THEY ARE A SMALL GROUP BUT VERY LOUD AND SEEM TO BE ABLE TO RAISE PLENTY OF MONEY TO BOMBARD THE REST OF US WITH THEIR RANTS AND PROPAGANDA. THEY HAVE HAD RECENT SUCCESSES CLOSING DOWN ZOOS, AND MARINE ATTRACTIONS AS WELL AS FORCING CIRCUSES TO CONFORM TO SOME OF THEIR DEMANDS. PERHAPS NOW THEY WANT TO REGULATE MUSEUMS AND DECIDE WHAT THEY CAN HAVE ON DISPLAY. IF THEY SUCCEED MUSEUMS WILL NO LONGER BE WORTH THE VISIT IN MANY CASES. THEY HAVE TRIED TO REGULATE COLLECTORS THRU VARIOUS LAWS FOR QUITE SOME TIME BUT ARE NEVER SATISFIED.

THANKS FOR THE PICTURES AND EXCUSE MY RANT

BUT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS BUT IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN EXHIBITS IN A MUSEUM DEFACED WITH WHAT I VIEW AS PROPAGANDA.
THE LONG GLASS SPEAR POINT IS REMARKABLE WHERE IS IT FROM. THEY HAVE SOME VERY NICE CLUBS AND EDGED WEAPONS AS WELL, I HOPE THEY CAN CONTINUE TO EXHIBIT THEIR COLLECTIONS AS WELL IN FUTURE.

Bob A · 15th March 2016, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS A GROUP WHOSE HOBBY SEEMS TO BE FINDING SOMETHING PEOPLE HAVE ENJOYED FOR GENERATIONS AND MAKING IT POLITICALLY INCORRECT. THEY ARE A SMALL GROUP BUT VERY LOUD AND SEEM TO BE ABLE TO RAISE PLENTY OF MONEY TO BOMBARD THE REST OF US WITH THEIR RANTS AND PROPAGANDA. THEY HAVE HAD RECENT SUCCESSES CLOSING DOWN ZOOS, AND MARINE ATTRACTIONS AS WELL AS FORCING CIRCUSES TO CONFORM TO SOME OF THEIR DEMANDS. PERHAPS NOW THEY WANT TO REGULATE MUSEUMS AND DECIDE WHAT THEY CAN HAVE ON DISPLAY. IF THEY SUCCEED MUSEUMS WILL NO LONGER BE WORTH THE VISIT IN MANY CASES. THEY HAVE TRIED TO REGULATE COLLECTORS THRU VARIOUS LAWS FOR QUITE SOME TIME BUT ARE NEVER SATISFIED.

THANKS FOR THE PICTURES AND EXCUSE MY RANT

BUT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS BUT IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN EXHIBITS IN A MUSEUM DEFACED WITH WHAT I VIEW AS PROPAGANDA.
THE LONG GLASS SPEAR POINT IS REMARKABLE WHERE IS IT FROM. THEY HAVE SOME VERY NICE CLUBS AND EDGED WEAPONS AS WELL, I HOPE THEY CAN CONTINUE TO EXHIBIT THEIR COLLECTIONS AS WELL IN FUTURE.

Not the first time a museum exhibit had been defaced; the controversy over the Smithsonian's display of the Enola Gay, the Hiroshima nuclear bomber, was loud and longstanding, and the exhibit was in face subjected to some damage. Some people seem to feel that awkward or unpleasant history must needs be eliminated, whether a museum exhibit or a Bamiyan Buddha, or any number of such reminders of concepts which some find disturbing.

Enola Gay link; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enola_Gay

I prefer my history with as little editing as possible, but of course it's written by the winners, or cleansed by the Pure.

stekemest · 15th March 2016, 12:36 PM

What can be seen in the first few photographs is part of an art project called "fremd" (foreign). For the German speaking among us, here is more information: http://www.taz.de/!5275607/

Unfortunately, political correctness has become a dogma that spreads into all kinds of cultural institutions. To display foreign cultures is being understood as an instrument of white supremacy and it is often countered by the sort of "irony" as on these display cases. Ethnological museums nowadays struggle to distance themselves from the allegation of being a sort of "human zoo", and in many cases, it is the exhibits that suffer from this anticipatory obedience. It is hard, for example, to find tsantsas (shrunken heads) in German language museums nowadays. Everything that could evoke wonder, exitement and exoticism is somehow dubious. The director of grassi, Nanette Jacomijn Snoep, said that it is the goal of a museum to dismantle exoticism ("Eigentlich ist es Ziel eines Museums, Fremdheit abzubauen"). But why? It is the feeling of wonder and strangeness that creates science!

Tim Simmons · 15th March 2016, 07:05 PM

Perhaps the Grassi is being rather clever in having these slogans on the first display cases you come across. To pacifiy those who do not see the pure wonder and education? My next venture to German collection will be Stuttgart and train to Heidelberg.

15th March 2016, 12:36 PM	#3
stekemest Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 183	What can be seen in the first few photographs is part of an art project called "fremd" (foreign). For the German speaking among us, here is more information: http://www.taz.de/!5275607/ Unfortunately, political correctness has become a dogma that spreads into all kinds of cultural institutions. To display foreign cultures is being understood as an instrument of white supremacy and it is often countered by the sort of "irony" as on these display cases. Ethnological museums nowadays struggle to distance themselves from the allegation of being a sort of "human zoo", and in many cases, it is the exhibits that suffer from this anticipatory obedience. It is hard, for example, to find tsantsas (shrunken heads) in German language museums nowadays. Everything that could evoke wonder, exitement and exoticism is somehow dubious. The director of grassi, Nanette Jacomijn Snoep, said that it is the goal of a museum to dismantle exoticism ("Eigentlich ist es Ziel eines Museums, Fremdheit abzubauen"). But why? It is the feeling of wonder and strangeness that creates science! Last edited by stekemest; 15th March 2016 at 12:57 PM.

15th March 2016, 05:38 AM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS A GROUP WHOSE HOBBY SEEMS TO BE FINDING SOMETHING PEOPLE HAVE ENJOYED FOR GENERATIONS AND MAKING IT POLITICALLY INCORRECT. THEY ARE A SMALL GROUP BUT VERY LOUD AND SEEM TO BE ABLE TO RAISE PLENTY OF MONEY TO BOMBARD THE REST OF US WITH THEIR RANTS AND PROPAGANDA. THEY HAVE HAD RECENT SUCCESSES CLOSING DOWN ZOOS, AND MARINE ATTRACTIONS AS WELL AS FORCING CIRCUSES TO CONFORM TO SOME OF THEIR DEMANDS. PERHAPS NOW THEY WANT TO REGULATE MUSEUMS AND DECIDE WHAT THEY CAN HAVE ON DISPLAY. IF THEY SUCCEED MUSEUMS WILL NO LONGER BE WORTH THE VISIT IN MANY CASES. THEY HAVE TRIED TO REGULATE COLLECTORS THRU VARIOUS LAWS FOR QUITE SOME TIME BUT ARE NEVER SATISFIED. THANKS FOR THE PICTURES AND EXCUSE MY RANT BUT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS BUT IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN EXHIBITS IN A MUSEUM DEFACED WITH WHAT I VIEW AS PROPAGANDA. THE LONG GLASS SPEAR POINT IS REMARKABLE WHERE IS IT FROM. THEY HAVE SOME VERY NICE CLUBS AND EDGED WEAPONS AS WELL, I HOPE THEY CAN CONTINUE TO EXHIBIT THEIR COLLECTIONS AS WELL IN FUTURE.

15th March 2016, 07:05 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,894	Perhaps the Grassi is being rather clever in having these slogans on the first display cases you come across. To pacifiy those who do not see the pure wonder and education? My next venture to German collection will be Stuttgart and train to Heidelberg.