Strange yataghan! Russian?

estcrh · 14th February 2016, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

Are you referring to post #5?

I think Gavin was referring to #12? I added the Russian description there anyway.

ariel · 14th February 2016, 01:32 PM

I was wondering what it was doing here: nothing Russian, typically authentic example.

estcrh · 14th February 2016, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ariel

I was wondering what it was doing here: nothing Russian, typically authentic example.

Do you know of another example like it, not the style but the design and quality of the metal work?

Rashka Vatnik · 14th February 2016, 04:18 PM

Not a Russian

ariel · 14th February 2016, 04:46 PM

I do not archive pics, so the answer is no, I do not.

It is a very classy work, but there are a lot of classy yataghans, many with European-influenced decoration ( chasing, mostly). General style, dolphin head, configuration of ears, sumptuous chasing, overall harmony and elegance... Ottoman :-)

estcrh · 14th February 2016, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashka Vatnik

Not a Russian

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Ottoman :-)

Can anyone translate the museums description from post #12?

ariel · 14th February 2016, 10:22 PM

"Yataghan with scabbard. Asia Minor. Beginning of XIX century" . The rest is irrelevant: materials, dimension, provenance , date of accession ( 1919, so likely confiscated from the collection of poor Mr. Chertkov)

estcrh · 15th February 2016, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

"Yataghan with scabbard. Asia Minor. Beginning of XIX century" . The rest is irrelevant: materials, dimension, provenance , date of accession ( 1919, so likely confiscated from the collection of poor Mr. Chertkov)

It could be a diplomatic gift as Gavin mentioned, I personally have not seen this type of work on another example and I do have an extensive archive of images. Why would this be described as "Asia Minor" when another obviously Ottoman example from the same museum is described as being "Ottoman", what would the Russians consider Asian Minor to be?

14th February 2016, 01:32 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I was wondering what it was doing here: nothing Russian, typically authentic example.

14th February 2016, 04:18 PM	#4
Rashka Vatnik Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 4	Not a Russian

14th February 2016, 04:46 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I do not archive pics, so the answer is no, I do not. It is a very classy work, but there are a lot of classy yataghans, many with European-influenced decoration ( chasing, mostly). General style, dolphin head, configuration of ears, sumptuous chasing, overall harmony and elegance... Ottoman :-)

14th February 2016, 10:22 PM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	"Yataghan with scabbard. Asia Minor. Beginning of XIX century" . The rest is irrelevant: materials, dimension, provenance , date of accession ( 1919, so likely confiscated from the collection of poor Mr. Chertkov)