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Old 13th January 2016, 01:24 PM   #1
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Thanks much, guys. Very helpful! Interesting to see that there are quite a few around with similar markings.

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A pity the precious golden top with enamel and stones is missing.
A pity indeed! Do you happen to have any example of what that may have looked like?

I'm thinking the wire wrap is made out of a silver-gold alloy rather than a plating, because it seems quite solid also after cleaning. It was black when I got it, similar to what you'd expect to find on old silver.

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Old 13th January 2016, 07:13 PM   #2
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Do you happen to have any example of what that may have looked like?

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Here a (bad) photo of the top of a peudeueng which once was in my private collection, and now in a good friends collection.

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Old 13th January 2016, 07:17 PM   #3
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Here the best I have ever seen, and in the Bronbeek museum collection.
Lots of gold, and belonged to teuku Umar.
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I'm thinking the wire wrap is made out of a silver-gold alloy rather than a plating, because it seems quite solid also after cleaning. It was black when I got it, similar to what you'd expect to find on old silver.

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Hello Peter,

Nice example. specially with this gold alloy wire.

I agree that it must be some alloy. Gilded would not last so long on a hilt wrapping imo.

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Old 13th January 2016, 10:26 PM   #5
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Thanks for the additional pics! The one you had looks beautiful.

On a recent trip to Indonesia I encountered this one in their national museum. That one was not too shabby, either, and resembles the work on the one you used to have.

Unfortunately the cabinet seemed tightly secured and I didn't have a bag big enough to conceal it anyway so I just made some pics and left without breaking any laws. See pics below.

Looking at mine, I wonder if it had something at the pommel like that. It could have been, as the plate I see now is not decorated like the rest of the hilt, and may have once been covered with something else.
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Old 14th January 2016, 12:59 PM   #6
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Thank you for sharing this one Peter.
It has one of the most beautifull handle I have seen so far!

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Thanks for sharing indeed.
A variation that I have not seen before with a handguard with enamel.

Ps. can you post a picture of the top of the hilt of your example ?
You mention a plate. would like to see a picture of it.

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Old 15th January 2016, 03:03 AM   #8
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It is interesting how the Achenese adopted foreign forms: Piso Podang from the Portugese ( "espadao"), the handle " hulu meu apet" from Indian Gulabhati, and here the British blade.
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Until I can ascertain if this sword is currently for sale or not I am closing this thread.

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