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Old 5th January 2016, 09:50 PM   #1
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I was wondering that myself.
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Old 5th January 2016, 10:10 PM   #2
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Guys, please elaborate. This would have fooled me, and I would have bought it if given the chance. How did you determine it is newly made? TIA

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Old 5th January 2016, 10:49 PM   #3
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These swords appear on e-bay regularly: from Beirut and from Turkey. They used to be advertised from Damascus, but I guess Syrian mail service had some problems recently.


Every part is "off": handle, blade, crossguard.

I am not going to elaborate: let the fakers guess what exactly is wrong with their junk.
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Old 6th January 2016, 02:21 AM   #4
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Thanks everybody for your input. I guess I will just return it.
Just FYI this is a really good job for a fake sword. And the inlay is done pretty neat compared to Indian swords. If one can get these really cheap it would be OK to buy it.
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Old 6th January 2016, 07:48 AM   #5
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Guys, please elaborate. This would have fooled me, and I would have bought it if given the chance. How did you determine it is newly made? TIA
Harry
Hi Harry,

Yes sometimes members judgments are very frustrating.
Sometimes they are also completly wrong. Beware of that!
I'm afraid to say that they are so right for this one.
The best answer to your question is to look at the real ones.
Look at the details of the blade, guard, grips...
For me the worst is not the pure fakes, the worst is when sellers mix old and new. We have a lot of dealers on this forum, I'm sure they know what i'mean...

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Old 6th January 2016, 09:17 AM   #6
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I MUST ADMIT THAT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO REPLIED AND ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION HAVE REPLIED IN A VERY NICE AND KIND WAY AND MADE YOU CAUTIOUS,AS THERE ARE SOME ON THIS FORUM WHO RIDICULE AND MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE ONE IS A FOOL,WE ALL ARE LEARNING AND NO ONE IS AN EXPERT AND AN EXPERT ALSO CAN BE FOOLED
GOOD LUCK AND THANKS FOR POSTING
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Old 6th January 2016, 12:43 PM   #7
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just a few tidbits about these swords, they appeared in about 2010, made in Syria and/or Turkey. The blade looks gold inlaid, as initially thought, but it is neither gold nor inlay, it is surface template-based application, far from anything it appeared to be. You may see an old thread with similar swords from when they began making them HERE
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Old 7th January 2016, 01:28 AM   #8
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just a few tidbits about these swords, they appeared in about 2010, made in Syria and/or Turkey. The blade looks gold inlaid, as initially thought, but it is neither gold nor inlay, it is surface template-based application, far from anything it appeared to be. You may see an old thread with similar swords from when they began making them HERE
Thanks Alex! I wish I came along this post earlier, It would save me some time and disappointment. Either way I see that on your example the handle is a little better, which makes me feel even worse Well, better late than never, as they say. I hope that at least our efforts here will warn some people about the fakes. Also I think that this guys would make more profit if they openly stated that the swords are replicas, priced them right and offer them to everybody, instead of being shady. But I guess some people are more greedy than smart.
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Old 7th January 2016, 12:30 PM   #9
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Arsen, you are most welcome! I am glad you posted this sword and got the facts about it. This is part of collecting, and I think safe to say every one of us made some miscalculations at some point, especially when going by only online images.
here are a few more swords of similar nature, not even most from just the past several weeks alone. one even has the reference of authentic sword from Tirri book attached, as to stress the importance of everything that remotely resembles it, and the description states "likely 1700s to 1800s period, of course
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