Yatagan Beauty from Balkan, help needed

ALEX · 12th December 2015, 07:58 PM

Rick,
As a layered/laminated steel, it is a mechanical Damascus in a way, but not a typical one. There's no methodical attempt to manipulate steel into a particular pattern. This is a random mix, and the result of impurities that happened to be. There are many blades like this, especially Ottoman blades because they used all sorts of different types of steel. not all were designed or supposed to be etched.

Roland_M · 14th December 2015, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ALEX

Rick,
There's no methodical attempt to manipulate steel into a particular pattern. This is a random mix, and the result of impurities that happened to be. There are many blades like this, especially Ottoman blades because they used all sorts of different types of steel. not all were designed or supposed to be etched.

Alex,

Can you explain please, what you try to say with " result of impurities"?

This blade is completely flawless and very controlled forged.

Each side has its own pattern.

One must see the steel with his own eyes to understand the construction. My pictures are definitely not detailed enough.

ALEX · 14th December 2015, 10:32 AM

Good question, Roland
I may used the term "impurities" incorrectly as your blade shows some linear layering - a form of deliberate mechanical manipulation of different steels. Please see THIS POST for better example of what I meant by "impurities", i.e. pattern that is not formed intentionally. As you know, true wootz is a result of different impurities that were part of the ore, not added/manipulated to form the (mechanical) pattern. With examples above, the pattern is formed due to different steels used in the mix.
Question to metallurgists: does the fact that "Each side has its own pattern" indicate accidental/random pattern formation, any particular technique, etc?

12th December 2015, 07:58 PM	#1
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Rick, As a layered/laminated steel, it is a mechanical Damascus in a way, but not a typical one. There's no methodical attempt to manipulate steel into a particular pattern. This is a random mix, and the result of impurities that happened to be. There are many blades like this, especially Ottoman blades because they used all sorts of different types of steel. not all were designed or supposed to be etched.

14th December 2015, 10:32 AM	#3
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Good question, Roland I may used the term "impurities" incorrectly as your blade shows some linear layering - a form of deliberate mechanical manipulation of different steels. Please see THIS POST for better example of what I meant by "impurities", i.e. pattern that is not formed intentionally. As you know, true wootz is a result of different impurities that were part of the ore, not added/manipulated to form the (mechanical) pattern. With examples above, the pattern is formed due to different steels used in the mix. Question to metallurgists: does the fact that "Each side has its own pattern" indicate accidental/random pattern formation, any particular technique, etc?