A whole lot of keris!

[nechesh]

Originally Posted by Mans

About your Bangkinang Sumateran keris, it is not the Patrem because many Bangkinang keris made with the style like this one.

Hi Mans. Thanks for more of you generously illustrated posts. Pictures help so much, though not quite as much as hands-on.

You did, i assume, notice that the blade of this Sumatran keris is only 8" long. I am not aware of there being many keris from any area that are usually this small unless they are patrem.
I have heard the first blade being referred to as Kebo Teki before. Is Ron Teki more correct in your opion or is either term proper?

[Mans]

Originally Posted by nechesh

Hi Mans. Thanks for more of you generously illustrated posts. Pictures help so much, though not quite as much as hands-on.

Hi Nechesh,

If you near from me, I will borrowing my keris and sending it to you. So, you can hands-on it all But, I think you has many collections too, didn't you ?

Indeed that too many Dapur on the Javanese Keris. At book with tittle Keris (Daya Magic - Manfaat - Tuah - Misteri) wrote that the dapur of Javanese keris made amount 819 kinds. Too much kinds, isn't it ? So that often can make us confused, included me .

Some Dapur has no name yet because not wrote at any literatures or Pakem of the Javanese keris. So, if we found the keris which has no Pakem, we called it as Kalawijan. But, many keris can be identified. Like the differences between Ron Teki with Kebo Teki or Mahesa Teki. "Kebo" is same with "Mahesa", mean Buffalo. Keris Kebo Teki and Ron Teki has the longer Gandik than usual keris. But Kebo Teki has no Kembang Kacang. In the other side, Ron Teki has Kembang Kacang on the Gandik.

Here I posted the pictures ;
1st : Kebo Teki / Mahesa Teki
2nd : Kebo Lajer / Mahesa Lajer
3th : Ron Teki
4th : Dhuwung
5th : Kebo Giri / Mahesa Kanthong

[Lew]

Here are three more keris from that batch they all seem old and etched quite a bit. The naga seems to be missing a peice.

Lew

[nechesh]

Lew, i believe that is a Singa, not a Naga, a lion in a seated position. It does appear to be missing it's gonjo, which is a shame since you don't see too many actually old examples of these blades.

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by nechesh

Lew, i believe that is a Singa, not a Naga, a lion in a seated position. It does appear to be missing it's gonjo, which is a shame since you don't see too many actually old examples of these blades.

It's a Singa Barong. It's right leg seems to have came off a little. The ganja is missing, but can be remade, if you wanted to.

I especially like the short Palembang piece and the one marked no.2 by Mans.
Up close, some of these kerisses are of good quality, less missing its fittings. Congrats! on obtaining these.

[Lew]

What types/styles of hilts should I be looking at to make the restorations on these keris? The small keris up top only has a 2 inch tang is that a problem?


Lew

[nechesh]

Ah, now there's the rub. Certainly each of these blades fits into a regional catagory with it's own cultural considerations. But within those catagories you have many options of style and form. So many choices, so little time.

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

What types/styles of hilts should I be looking at to make the restorations on these keris? The small keris up top only has a 2 inch tang is that a problem?
Lew

The 2 inch tang is normal for this form.

Here's a good resource for forms according to region:
http://blade.japet.com/KERIS.htm

The pictures, would illustrate enough for you to understand the form.
Although it's in French, you can use this translator:
http://world.altavista.com/

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by nechesh

You did, i assume, notice that the blade of this Sumatran keris is only 8" long. I am not aware of there being many keris from any area that are usually this small unless they are patrem.

There are quite a few with different blade and sheath form from different regions. Known as keris pendek (pendek=short)...

Keris Pendek Sumatra form
Keris Pendek Peninsular form
Sumatra (Palembang) form
East Sumatra form

[BluErf]

And you guys probably remember this archetypal Minang heartland keris. It doesn't get more Minang than this.

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by BluErf

And you guys probably remember this archetypal Minang heartland keris. It doesn't get more Minang than this.

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php

Pretty new addition to your collection...it wasn't there when I last checked...(last post).

[BluErf]

Oh, I think it was posted on the old Vikingsword forum, before you joined.

[nechesh]

Stop it Kai Wee, you're getting me hot!

[Lew]

I did a light etch on the Bali keris so here are some pics of the blade.



Lew