Late 15th c. Bronze Barrel Tiller Arquebuses in the Radziwill Chronicle

Marcus den toom · 26th November 2015, 07:37 PM

Hi Andi,

That is what i thought as wel at first, but than i began to see these trumpets in the illustrations...

Does anyone know if the other weapons and armour used in these pictures is that of 15th century Russian design? This would mean they redid the whole manuscript and only based the illustrations setup on those in the 13th century original.

Some other illustrations as well of crossbows and another cannon

Andi · 26th November 2015, 07:56 PM

According to me the clothing, the armour and arms of the depicted persons and also the style of the images perfectly match into the 13th century. Except the mi-parti clothing of the man with the trumpet in the fist image of post #5 looks really 15th century style. He is not matching to the other images. But it seems that the 15th century illustrator perfectly copied the original manuscript.

Marcus den toom · 26th November 2015, 08:31 PM

True, there is a noticeable difference between the clothing styles.
Another with two types of horns.

I also added page 274 of the manuscript with some sort of torch/firepot?

EDIT: it also seems like those different trumpet blowers are outside of the picture.. not standing on anything?

26th November 2015, 07:37 PM	#1
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Hi Andi, That is what i thought as wel at first, but than i began to see these trumpets in the illustrations... Does anyone know if the other weapons and armour used in these pictures is that of 15th century Russian design? This would mean they redid the whole manuscript and only based the illustrations setup on those in the 13th century original. Some other illustrations as well of crossbows and another cannon Attached Images

26th November 2015, 08:31 PM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	True, there is a noticeable difference between the clothing styles. Another with two types of horns. I also added page 274 of the manuscript with some sort of torch/firepot? EDIT: it also seems like those different trumpet blowers are outside of the picture.. not standing on anything? Attached Images

26th November 2015, 07:56 PM	#2
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	According to me the clothing, the armour and arms of the depicted persons and also the style of the images perfectly match into the 13th century. Except the mi-parti clothing of the man with the trumpet in the fist image of post #5 looks really 15th century style. He is not matching to the other images. But it seems that the 15th century illustrator perfectly copied the original manuscript.