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15th November 2015, 04:21 AM
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A PRECURSOR .....
Hullo everybody!
 Pedang Parang Lais (c1800): LxOALxWxT=46x57x2.06x1.09cm. Enjoy! Best, Last edited by Amuk Murugul; 15th November 2015 at 04:34 AM. Reason: added info |
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15th November 2015, 01:31 PM
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I might be missing a point, but what was the basis of such a classification?
Size? Handle? Contour of the point? Contour of the blade? Color of the scabbard? What " differences in the basic shape " are important? Are we talking about real issues of construction or just about local monikers of the same sword? I do love Parang Naburs and would love to really understand them. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=nimcha For example: would you refer to it as. Lais type? Help me out. Thanks. Last edited by ariel; 15th November 2015 at 01:47 PM. |
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15th November 2015, 03:35 PM
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my parang nabur (Beladah Belabang)
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15th November 2015, 08:22 PM
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"Krom zwaard met gemene scherpe punt en bloedgeul"  A lot of dutch would call it "sabel" or "klewang".  This terminology is fully regardless of size, curvature, shape, age and espcecially regardless of colour.  If my comment is puzzling you... This thread is puzzling me. 
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15th November 2015, 08:28 PM
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Krom zwaard met gemene scherpe punt en bloedgeul="Scimitar with a nasty sharp point and blood groove". (really. no such thing as 'blood grooves', they're 'fullers' in english, a device to lighten a blade without losing rigidity.
in the words of the immortal bard, crocodile dundee, that's not a dutchy sabel/klewang, THIS is a dutchy sabel/klewang: .the dutch ARE fond of the clipped points on their sabels. premise: jim bowie (boo-ee) was a dutchman. discuss. Last edited by kronckew; 15th November 2015 at 08:50 PM. |
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23rd November 2015, 07:10 PM
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Hi Amuk,
Could you please spend some time in answering Michaels questions, as I also would like to know and am curious about the names you use in your "recognition chart"? I suppose you have the names from the Leiden database, as I noticed some years ago that they use names like you are mentioning for these beladah belabang types from Negara/Bandjermassin area. Or are these later terms they are used to call them nowadays? Best regards, Maurice |
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8th January 2016, 01:28 AM
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Old School: ..... a CLASSIC!
Hullo everybody!
To share, for your enjoyment/info. Type: Parang Tjarangasoka. Name: Masih Bandjar. Blade: LxOALxWxT=56x68x4.75x0.99cm. Handle: Wood w/ silver ftgs. (Before anyone asks; it IS a Lais) Synonyms: Parang Nyabur , Parang Nyabor , Parang Niabur , Parang Nabur Best, Last edited by Amuk Murugul; 8th January 2016 at 03:26 AM. Reason: added info. |
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