New Plains club

Tim Simmons · 14th November 2015, 05:28 PM

Since found that Catlinite and Brown shale are much the same thing.

Tim Simmons · 15th November 2015, 08:52 AM

Just come across this example, 13 inches long in the Brooklyn Museum, 19th century.

stekemest · 15th November 2015, 10:33 AM

Actually looks more like an axe if you ask me. Hard to see if it has an edge.

Tim Simmons · 15th November 2015, 05:59 PM

I am trying to add a resized picture. It is a hammer which only makes a small difference is used as a weapon. It is has turquoise inlay which is suggested
by the museum to be unusual and often found on objects for sale. The museum also suggest it may be a dance thing. Then states that it conforms to widespread regional forms. So really they are covering all bases. I only show it as it is so similar to my new piece.

Tim Simmons · 26th November 2015, 01:48 PM

Here now. Quite interesting, who can say how old it is? but why should I doubt that it could be a late 19th early 20th century piece like many in the AMNH. It fits the group, however and I am sure it will be for most of us all.

" still not the one I am after"

It may be small but it is a well balanced weapon.

Pukka Bundook · 26th November 2015, 02:50 PM

Tim,

The short handled types were still popular, even if not exactly what we expect to see.

Yellow Wolf, (Nez Perce warrior) had a "copluts' with a handle only about 10 inches long. He was shown in a dream how to make it and what size it should be. He even brained a grizzly -bear with it.
On his, the stone was perfectly round and covered in rawhide.
He was 'intructed' to make the handle short, so it could not be grabbed by an opponent.
Yellow Wolf fought alongside Joseph and Looking Glass in their famous retreat.

Richard.

Tim Simmons · 26th November 2015, 04:46 PM

Thanks for that Richard. I like it all the more

15th November 2015, 08:52 AM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Just come across this example, 13 inches long in the Brooklyn Museum, 19th century. Attached Images

15th November 2015, 05:59 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	I am trying to add a resized picture. It is a hammer which only makes a small difference is used as a weapon. It is has turquoise inlay which is suggested by the museum to be unusual and often found on objects for sale. The museum also suggest it may be a dance thing. Then states that it conforms to widespread regional forms. So really they are covering all bases. I only show it as it is so similar to my new piece. Attached Images

26th November 2015, 01:48 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Here now. Quite interesting, who can say how old it is? but why should I doubt that it could be a late 19th early 20th century piece like many in the AMNH. It fits the group, however and I am sure it will be for most of us all. " still not the one I am after" It may be small but it is a well balanced weapon. Attached Images

14th November 2015, 05:28 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Since found that Catlinite and Brown shale are much the same thing.

15th November 2015, 10:33 AM	#3
stekemest Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 183	Actually looks more like an axe if you ask me. Hard to see if it has an edge.

26th November 2015, 02:50 PM	#6
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Tim, The short handled types were still popular, even if not exactly what we expect to see. Yellow Wolf, (Nez Perce warrior) had a "copluts' with a handle only about 10 inches long. He was shown in a dream how to make it and what size it should be. He even brained a grizzly -bear with it. On his, the stone was perfectly round and covered in rawhide. He was 'intructed' to make the handle short, so it could not be grabbed by an opponent. Yellow Wolf fought alongside Joseph and Looking Glass in their famous retreat. Richard.

26th November 2015, 04:46 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Thanks for that Richard. I like it all the more