NORTH AFRICAN ?? KNIFE/DAGGER

[Miguel]

I would also venture that it is Moroccan judging by the blade style and scabbard but I have not seen that hilt form on a Moroccan Koumaya. As a matter of coincidence if you google Turkish Jambiyas and peruse the images you will see the identical twin of this knife advertised as a 19thC Turkish Jambiiya with bone handle discoulered by age.
Miguel

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Miguel

I would also venture that it is Moroccan judging by the blade style and scabbard but I have not seen that hilt form on a Moroccan Koumaya. As a matter of coincidence if you google Turkish Jambiyas and peruse the images you will see the identical twin of this knife advertised as a 19thC Turkish Jambiiya with bone handle discoulered by age.
Miguel

Hi Miguel,
That is the same dagger shown here for comment. Obviously sellers pics have been posted on Google also.
Stu

[Miguel]

Hi Stu, I thought it was strange seeing two knives having identical features in such a short time and of a hilt design on what I think is an old Koumayar blade that I had not seen before. I stumbled across it while looking at various different country`s designs of Jambiyas.
Regards.
Miguel

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Miguel

Hi Stu, I thought it was strange seeing two knives having identical features in such a short time and of a hilt design on what I think is an old Koumayar blade that I had not seen before. I stumbled across it while looking at various different country`s designs of Jambiyas.
Regards.
Miguel

Hi Miguel,
I had not thought of this being a reused koumyya blade but it could very well be. The scabbard is of course not a koumyya type, but is purpose made to fit the knife.
I think the clue to the origin of this piece is probably the
decoration on the scabbard.
Any ideas?
Stu

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Hi Miguel,
I had not thought of this being a reused koumyya blade but it could very well be. The scabbard is of course not a koumyya type, but is purpose made to fit the knife.
I think the clue to the origin of this piece is probably the
decoration on the scabbard.
Any ideas?
Stu

Hi Stu,
Your knife is really intriguing me, I have since revised my opinion and think it is a Shula knife, one of the options offered by Kubur, but even then I have not seen that type of handle on a Shula knife although the blade and scabbard look like Shula. I am surprised that no more of the members who have more knowledge of this type of weapon have not commented.
Miguel

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Miguel

Hi Stu,
Your knife is really intriguing me, I have since revised my opinion and think it is a Shula knife, one of the options offered by Kubur, but even then I have not seen that type of handle on a Shula knife although the blade and scabbard look like Shula. I am surprised that no more of the members who have more knowledge of this type of weapon have not commented.
Miguel

Shape of scabbard is all wrong for the Shula. The mouth of this scabbard is distinctly belled. The Shula is not.
Stu

[kahnjar1]

I think the key to identifying where this comes from, is the decoration style on the scabbard.
We can agree that it is North African by the blade style and the baldric method of wearing, but the scabbard shape is a mystery, and the decoration????? Sub Sahara maybe?.... or tribal Sahara?

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Shape of scabbard is all wrong for the Shula. The mouth of this scabbard is distinctly belled. The Shula is not.
Stu

Oops, you are correct, I don't know how I missed that, will keep searching.
Miguel