On the Use of Indian Terms for Identification of Weapon Types

Jens Nordlunde · 22nd October 2015, 06:11 PM

Emanuel,
We dont have very much hiis early, and the drawings like the ones from Ani-Akbar would at best leave something to guessing.
There is of course the description of the katar - katara/jamdhar/narsingh-moth.
My guess is, that the Europeians choose one name for daggers with this kind of hilt - but this is purely guessing.

The katars shown in the Akbar miniatures are clearly jamdahars, and I try to research this, as there is something funny/strange, but I am not prepared to discuss anything about it yet.

A pity I did not contact you when I was in Toronto some years ago :-).

Jens

Emanuel · 22nd October 2015, 07:17 PM

There are indeed some interesting things in those Akbar miniatures. I'm looking through the copies I found online and there is lots to extract and dissect.

A pity indeed. Next time you come by our shores, please do drop a line

Emanuel

Emanuel · 22nd October 2015, 08:09 PM

Having hijacked Mercenary's thread enough (my apologies

), I moved discussion of Akbar's weapons specifically, here: http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20629

Emanuel

Jens Nordlunde · 22nd October 2015, 09:41 PM

I am sorry to say that it will not happend again - a trip to Canada. I found it fantastic - but I hated the time of flying to Canada and over Canada to the west coast - thirteen hours of flying and about two hours of waiting.
So much more I regret not to have contacted you.
Jens

fernando · 22nd October 2015, 10:06 PM

Ah, the Niagara falls, the Royal Ontario Museum, the CN tower ... all fascinating

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ariel · 22nd October 2015, 10:28 PM

Jens, I am located in Ann Arbor, a delightful college town 1 hour drive from Windsor, Ontario.
You are alway welcome.
On top of that, I can give you a long tour of all our local microbreweries:-)

Mercenary · 22nd October 2015, 10:39 PM

Ariel, I see you have some time. Be so kind answere my post #72 .

ariel · 24th October 2015, 02:47 AM

You may find examples in:

India: Art and Culture, 1300-1900.
by Stuart Cary Welch

It is available on Amazon, I just checked.

It includes the famous one with the head of his son, Shah Jahan.

22nd October 2015, 08:09 PM	#3
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Having hijacked Mercenary's thread enough (my apologies ), I moved discussion of Akbar's weapons specifically, here: http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20629 Emanuel Last edited by Emanuel; 22nd October 2015 at 08:24 PM.

22nd October 2015, 06:11 PM	#1
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Emanuel, We dont have very much hiis early, and the drawings like the ones from Ani-Akbar would at best leave something to guessing. There is of course the description of the katar - katara/jamdhar/narsingh-moth. My guess is, that the Europeians choose one name for daggers with this kind of hilt - but this is purely guessing. The katars shown in the Akbar miniatures are clearly jamdahars, and I try to research this, as there is something funny/strange, but I am not prepared to discuss anything about it yet. A pity I did not contact you when I was in Toronto some years ago :-). Jens

22nd October 2015, 07:17 PM	#2
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	There are indeed some interesting things in those Akbar miniatures. I'm looking through the copies I found online and there is lots to extract and dissect. A pity indeed. Next time you come by our shores, please do drop a line Emanuel

22nd October 2015, 09:41 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	I am sorry to say that it will not happend again - a trip to Canada. I found it fantastic - but I hated the time of flying to Canada and over Canada to the west coast - thirteen hours of flying and about two hours of waiting. So much more I regret not to have contacted you. Jens

22nd October 2015, 10:06 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Ah, the Niagara falls, the Royal Ontario Museum, the CN tower ... all fascinating .

22nd October 2015, 10:28 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Jens, I am located in Ann Arbor, a delightful college town 1 hour drive from Windsor, Ontario. You are alway welcome. On top of that, I can give you a long tour of all our local microbreweries:-)

22nd October 2015, 10:39 PM	#7
Mercenary Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 428	Ariel, I see you have some time. Be so kind answere my post #72 .

24th October 2015, 02:47 AM	#8
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	You may find examples in: India: Art and Culture, 1300-1900. by Stuart Cary Welch It is available on Amazon, I just checked. It includes the famous one with the head of his son, Shah Jahan.