A Beam scale ... and a question on the date

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 23rd September 2015, 08:18 PM

Nice Scales... Often the Othmanli (Ottoman) scales have the Tugra of the Ottoman Empire stamped on them... The date of possibly 1795/1745 ??? is plausible.

Please note http://kurkman.com/images/Armenianobserver.jpg where by following the last papagraph a lead may be obtained in this interesting field..

SEE http://maviboncuk.blogspot.com/2008/...nd-scales.html

fernando · 24th September 2015, 06:11 PM

Thank you Ibrahiim.
Having bought this in a local flea market, i would hardly assume that this example is not Portuguese. Yes, the date must be around that; i just don't see a similar type of writing font out there.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 24th September 2015, 10:12 PM

I agree ...Not Ottoman ...Portuguese; I think so.

The Ottomans were absolute sticklers for accurate scale measurements and had all scales stamped with the official Tughra as in this one below...and a set of scales with a similar stamp...

fernando · 25th September 2015, 06:15 PM

If scales are used with weights, those are in more need to be certified. I observe that, over here, we had the King's crest punched in weights, that were applied by the official of the Royal checking office.
I have this (rather) rustic weight, i think for flax weighing, originally forged in 1818, as may be read. Then at a later stage (1831?), either because weight standards criteria was altered or its mass was tampered with (the usual ancient cheating trick), its owner had to add some more iron to it, for a new certification.
In the first issue you may see the King's crest (Dom João VI). In the second check up, the mark is not so clear.

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23rd September 2015, 08:18 PM	#1
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Ottoman Scales. Nice Scales... Often the Othmanli (Ottoman) scales have the Tugra of the Ottoman Empire stamped on them... The date of possibly 1795/1745 ??? is plausible. Please note http://kurkman.com/images/Armenianobserver.jpg where by following the last papagraph a lead may be obtained in this interesting field.. SEE http://maviboncuk.blogspot.com/2008/...nd-scales.html Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 23rd September 2015 at 08:41 PM.

24th September 2015, 10:12 PM	#3
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	I agree ...Not Ottoman ...Portuguese; I think so. The Ottomans were absolute sticklers for accurate scale measurements and had all scales stamped with the official Tughra as in this one below...and a set of scales with a similar stamp... Attached Images Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 24th September 2015 at 10:28 PM.

25th September 2015, 06:15 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	If scales are used with weights, those are in more need to be certified. I observe that, over here, we had the King's crest punched in weights, that were applied by the official of the Royal checking office. I have this (rather) rustic weight, i think for flax weighing, originally forged in 1818, as may be read. Then at a later stage (1831?), either because weight standards criteria was altered or its mass was tampered with (the usual ancient cheating trick), its owner had to add some more iron to it, for a new certification. In the first issue you may see the King's crest (Dom João VI). In the second check up, the mark is not so clear. . Attached Images

24th September 2015, 06:11 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you Ibrahiim. Having bought this in a local flea market, i would hardly assume that this example is not Portuguese. Yes, the date must be around that; i just don't see a similar type of writing font out there.