Keris malevolence?

[Green]

Originally Posted by David

That said, anyone feeling the need to rid themselves of any particularly maleficent or misbehaving blades is welcome to contact me privately for my mailing address...

David;

Funny thing you said that. That's exactly what happened to me about a month's back. A friend told me her friend wanted to sell an heirloom keris that was in the family for generations. this surprised me a bit as nobody usually sell heirloom keris. She told me that the owner is already dead and now the keris is passed down to one of his sons that didn't want to keep it anymore and hence it is offred to me which I bought literally for a song. (He was that keen to get rid off it).

When I brought home I had a bit of trepidation and slight bad feeling about it but soon get over it and become fond of it just like the rest of my very modest collection. If there's any truth to my son's claim that my kerises are disturbing his sleep I'd guess this would be the likely one doing it!... but I'd say with 99.9% confidence that my son's nightmare was just normal sleep experience and his attribution to the effect of my collection is just an autosuggestion due to the collective accumulation of the keris lores in our Malaysian/Indonesian culture.

[Gavin Nugent]

This is always a topic I find interesting and have my own ideas on the subject. The mind is a very powerful thing in either the controlled or uncontrolled state.

For those who have not seen this video, it is worth the watch and without the first hand experience of being there, I am sure it can for the most be taken with a grain of salt...
Keris are mentioned and shown briefly just past the 5 minute mark...nothing ground breaking but it is interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oam9wCFFids

Gavin

[Rick]

Dynamo Jack .
I remember him from the Ring of Fire series .
Ah, the mystical East .

It's unfortunate James 'The Amazing' Randi didn't get to test this guy when he was alive .
Randi offered a 1 million dollar reward available to anyone who could prove their powers .
Yellow Bamboo failed miserably .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1ykNZ7rAcw
Still, I want to believe .

[David]

Yeah, i've watched the Dynamo Jack sequence from the Ring of Fire series many times. My feeling is that Jack had some real talents which he augmented with a few magic trick illusions. One of the most important parts of this type of healing work is belief, as it makes the patient more receptive to the energies allegedly being transmitted. A few of the things shown here (catching the bullet, starting fires) are relatively easy and well established magic tricks. But he does seem to transmit some real chi energies as well. Of course, these videos owe there success to presenting real mysteries, so it hard to tell how skeptical their approach really was.
However, this takes us way off the track of keris. There is a brief section of the video where we see a finely balanced keris move a little bit. Honestly, this is easy enough to do with wind or magnets, but even if it was the energy of a spirit within the keris it still does not speak to the malevolence question. Again, i've never met a keris that i have felt such an energy from.
If we are to continue along this line of discussion i think i would really like to see it directly specifically at keris and not at the rather large arena of psychic/metaphysical phenomenon.

[rasjid]

Hi David,

Just a quick note on dynamo Jack or jack chang, nothing to do with keris at all. I have reliable source and direct student of him in Indonesia, his skill is real and called nie-kung (not chi-kung as commonly known) direct from china. Agreed its not keris discussion.
Rasjid

[rasjid]

Green, I'm indonesian, chinese indonesian i would say. When started collecting keris, my first priority is on the aesthetic nothing else. Thats my statement to all the sellers from there, they will note telling you other stories. But if the first questions you ask the seller if you are looking for a keris that can make you rich or good in making friends etc than you will hear all stories that you would like to hear. The stories are for you to hear and make you wanna buy it

If aesthetic you wanna see than asked about the iron, the luk, kembang kacang etc the look of the keris. Learn from this forum, read a lot, ask a lot. I think a lot of senior members here like to help out.
I'm learning too.

If you bought something., anything really and you feel not comfortable than don't keep it. Sell it back or i will keep it on your behalf... just kidding...



Regards
Rasjid