2-handed sword scabbards

[NeilUK]

I agree that such scabbards would have been big and heavy, and easily lost and lots of engravings of Landsknechts show them carried or held with the blades bare; but how do we explain the repeated references to them in the inventories if they did not exist? The ones I mentioned in my first post I have seen either for real or in photographs.
Neil

[Timo Nieminen]

Scabbards deteriorate faster than swords. Somebody threw them out.

The only old surviving Japanese odachi scabbards I've seen are for temple swords, and I don't recall seeing a scabbard for a Ming chang dao. Yet, these had scabbards when they were used on the battlefield.

[David R]

Were these true "Zweihänder" or hand and a half "Bastard Swords". Either way one reason for their loss could be storing blades out of scabbards, which is a way of preventing them rusting into them immovably in long term storage. Another is them being discarded on the field, as is quite usual for a lot of swords.

[NeilUK]

Yes, I guess I'm not going to come across a great many and my curiosity will have to remain unsatisfied. But thanks everyone for your input.

[kronckew]

Originally Posted by Timo Nieminen

...I don't recall seeing a scabbard for a Ming chang dao. Yet, these had scabbards when they were used on the battlefield.

the miaodao, or changdao, were a two-handed anti-cavalry weapon, used by a special front line corps of larger men who used them to sever the horses legs of charging enemy cavalry. apparently also used up to & including ww2.

they had/have a wooden scabbard very similar to a std. chinese dao, suspended on a braided silk sling attached to a broad bronze sash hook & eye, which hooks over a sword sash belt much like a jeb stewart csa sword suspension (also used by yankees i hear). it suspends the sword at an angle somewhat like a long rapier would have been.

mine:

edited: added a curious chinese instructional cartoon showing how the chinese paired to sheath & unsheath their swords, or gingerly grabbed the spine below the guard to get it back in or out by one man. mine is not quite so long, but i can barely get it in & out on my own from the hook suspended slings. i tried it stuck in my sash like the drawing & couldn't draw the darn thing in the normal method. yiu do not want to get your fingers over the edge, the man is shown keeping them well away. i suspect the decorative bronze habaki-like blade cover on mine forward of the guard also serves to save your fingers should you need to use the lone person draw of fig. two. also i note they are shown with a crossbow casually stuffed in their sash at the back.

[Harry Marinakis]

Two-handed War swords of the 13th Century were carried on the hip in a scabbard, just like one-handed arming swords