A MONSTER HEAD BOWIE

kronckew · 29th August 2015, 08:49 PM

the clip doesn't have to be curved. what is and what isn't is very subjective.

searles fowler bowie, for example, one was displayed at the alamo (and may still be) (below red background)

they even made them in nepal (the one i'm holding with the aluminum diamond shaped grip inlays)

and one of my favourites, a converted file (the ones with the file patterns on the sides.)

in spite of all the hype, james bowie in his final days at the alamo is actually supposed to have carried only a small 6 in. bladed sheffield bowie with a simple brass guard and wood grip.

David · 30th August 2015, 06:42 PM

Well, it does seem that for the most part one of the qualifications of a Bowie knife is that the top edge, whether clip point or not, is generally partially sharpened.
That doesn't seem to be a a feature of the monster hilted knife currently under discussion.

kronckew · 30th August 2015, 07:21 PM

even that is too limiting

, ie. see the searles-fowler bowie.

AMERICAN KNIFE AND TOOL INSTITUTE

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Originally Posted by AKTI

Bowie Knife

It is the position of AKTI that the term “Bowie Knife” is too vague and cannot be satisfactorily defined with sufficient precision. Accordingly, any law which provides an offense has been committed by one who possesses or carries a “Bowie Knife” is constitutionally defective.

some say the 'original bowie knife' was more like this traditional chef's knife (minus the japanese character i suspect)

(the absurdities of some of our collecting definitions makes it even more fun

)

VANDOO · 30th August 2015, 08:42 PM

I USE THE TERM BOWIE BASED ON THE GENERAL BLADE SHAPE AND SIZE OF THIS EXAMPLE. IT APPEARS TO BE A FOREIGN BLADE SHAPE ADOPTED IN THE PHILIPPINES AND ELSEWHERE FOR A HUNTING /FIGHTING KNIFE. THOUGH THIS FORM OF KNIFE (SIZE AND BLADE SHAPE) LIKELY WAS AROUND LONG BEFORE MR BOWIE AND HIS SUBSEQUENT LEGEND IT BECAME THE NAME FOR THEM.
IT IS LIKELY THE FIRST STEEL THAT CAME TO THE PHILIPPINES WAS FROM OTHER PLACES, CHINA, MALAYSIA, ECT. SO WHO IS TO SAY WHAT FORMS ARE PURELY PHILIPPINE WITH NO OUTSIDE INFLUENCE. A AMERICAN BOWIE KNIFE MAY HAVE A SIMULAR SHAPE TO THIS EXAMPLE BUT WOULD NOT HAVE THE FLAT SIDE TO THE BLADE HENCE PHILIPPINE BOWIE. BUT IN THE PHILIPPINES IT MIGHT BE CALLED MOST ANYTHING PERHAPS I WILL MAKE UP A NAME "GRABCRABY"

29th August 2015, 08:49 PM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	the clip doesn't have to be curved. what is and what isn't is very subjective. searles fowler bowie, for example, one was displayed at the alamo (and may still be) (below red background) they even made them in nepal (the one i'm holding with the aluminum diamond shaped grip inlays) and one of my favourites, a converted file (the ones with the file patterns on the sides.) in spite of all the hype, james bowie in his final days at the alamo is actually supposed to have carried only a small 6 in. bladed sheffield bowie with a simple brass guard and wood grip. Attached Images

30th August 2015, 06:42 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Well, it does seem that for the most part one of the qualifications of a Bowie knife is that the top edge, whether clip point or not, is generally partially sharpened. That doesn't seem to be a a feature of the monster hilted knife currently under discussion.

30th August 2015, 08:42 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I USE THE TERM BOWIE BASED ON THE GENERAL BLADE SHAPE AND SIZE OF THIS EXAMPLE. IT APPEARS TO BE A FOREIGN BLADE SHAPE ADOPTED IN THE PHILIPPINES AND ELSEWHERE FOR A HUNTING /FIGHTING KNIFE. THOUGH THIS FORM OF KNIFE (SIZE AND BLADE SHAPE) LIKELY WAS AROUND LONG BEFORE MR BOWIE AND HIS SUBSEQUENT LEGEND IT BECAME THE NAME FOR THEM. IT IS LIKELY THE FIRST STEEL THAT CAME TO THE PHILIPPINES WAS FROM OTHER PLACES, CHINA, MALAYSIA, ECT. SO WHO IS TO SAY WHAT FORMS ARE PURELY PHILIPPINE WITH NO OUTSIDE INFLUENCE. A AMERICAN BOWIE KNIFE MAY HAVE A SIMULAR SHAPE TO THIS EXAMPLE BUT WOULD NOT HAVE THE FLAT SIDE TO THE BLADE HENCE PHILIPPINE BOWIE. BUT IN THE PHILIPPINES IT MIGHT BE CALLED MOST ANYTHING PERHAPS I WILL MAKE UP A NAME "GRABCRABY"