Odd Sword

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

I think that the investigative analysis that has evolved involving the blade which initiated this thread is fascinating, and it is truly impressive to see looks into various alphabets and characters in these mysterious letters.


The outstanding approach toward this inscription (in #1) is very insightful and helps a lot in perspective on these on blades. Whether we can find anything conclusive or not, the content of the factors brought into the discussion is fascinating and great to learn more!

Salaams Jim and thank you for you well timed analysis so far on this important subject. I was looking through library and found a reference at http://siberiantimes.com/science/cas...-the-terrible/ which again examines the possible meaning on the blade.

I personally prefer the wider meaning/theory behind the writing rather than the absolute meaning not least because of the time it takes to even begin to unravel the basics... On another note I would rather see this thread over on the European as it rather belongs there.... which may sound a bit strange since the project at #1 was supposedly Omani or at least with an Omani Pommel and half a tang..

Thanks again for your important input.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

... On another note I would rather see this thread over on the European as it rather belongs there.... which may sound a bit strange since the project at #1 was supposedly Omani or at least with an Omani Pommel and half a tang...

Let's then copy (better than move) this thread to the European section. Remember that future posts will not have a 'dual' effect, but will only fall into the forum they are directed to.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by fernando

Let's then copy (better than move) this thread to the European section. Remember that future posts will not have a 'dual' effect, but will only fall into the forum they are directed to.

Ola Fernando... Great idea ...Look forward to that...
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

I thought this reference showed a similar blade to the marks shown on thread... Please see http://sword-site.com/thread/187/oak...medieval-sword

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

I have a brilliant research paper for Forum to look at Please see http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get...FULLTEXT01.pdf where a small number of swords and inscriptions are compared. It is interesting that the letter IJ occurs in the alphabet illustrated...as IS

The Citation for the original published paper (version of record):
Wagner, T., Worley, J., Holst Blennow, A., Beckholmen, G. (2009)
Medieval Christian invocation inscriptions on sword blades.
Waffen- und Kostümkunde, 51(1): 11-52

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Dear all; If I may return the focus of the thread initially to #1
where A 5 I IJ IJ A is shown on one swordface.

The A is with a short accent on top and the crosspiece is either vee or tee shaped. It occurs at both ends of the script.

The 5 is without its top like the Hebrew letter Zayin. It could stand for the Sword of Jesus...

The I may infact not be a straight I as it appears to have a tiny line in its centre. It could be an F or an I.

The IJ IJ may be Hebrew letters. ....It could be IS

The final letter is another A.

It is not known which way to read this line... The whole thing could be a reference to a holy script or it may only be known as a secret code to the owner. Inn addition it could be wrongly struck and some letters could be upside down... It makes for an interesting code break...Any takers??

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Salaams all...The fact is ..that in any study of European Arms and Armour ...at some point in proceedings the serious research student must open the page on this particular strata of fascinating if a little brain bruising work...All European swords come from this stable... The student of Ethnographics runs into related work in Talisman blade marks, Viking, Runes, Latin, Roman, Anglo Saxon and other peculiar alphabets ....

In this thread I continue to look for the peculiar A with the funny top and vee shaped crossbar...and below here is the answer in part; Bavarian or Old German Script.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.