Keris Coteng

Green · 27th July 2015, 04:09 PM

i come from kota baru kelantan malaysia which is just 40 km from sungai kolok town in the southern thailand province of narathiwat. My dialect, culture and food are almost identical to the southern malay thais but sadly with the separation of the 3 southern province of thailand with my state and country our culture has become further and further apart.

with regards to keris, the keris making culture and collection still survives in my state but there are very few good empus/pandai besi/keris makers around now and all they do is just making copies of existing styles particularly pandai saras and malelas.

maxbliss888 · 27th July 2015, 04:27 PM

Hi!

I come into contact with the Keris by accident as I was helping a Mainland China tourist girl translates when she wants to buy a Keris for her husband. It surprised me that a Mainland Chinese from so far away is keen on a Keris From SE Asia, which aroused my curiosity and later understanding on the keris.

Really love the keris as well as my weekly get together with fellow Thai collectors...

Henk · 27th July 2015, 06:21 PM

Green, I think if you could place some pictures of the keris made in your state, although they are copies and new ones, would satisfy our curiousity and give us an idea of the quality of these craftsmen.

Green · 28th July 2015, 12:36 PM

Henk ;

Here are 3 examples from my collection. The blades and scabbards are made locally (by Kelantan Malays), and one of the hilts (the elephant molar) I know for sure was made here in the mid 1990s.

Keris 1) Malela. Made by Stopa (Mustafa) who has now passed away several years ago The keris was forged by Mazlan who is now still living and very well known here. Stopa did the second part, the chiselling (canai) and finish. keris made by Mazlan/stopa team is highly sought after and valued here.

Keris 2) "Anak Alang" (poorly maintained blade)

Keris 3) Tajong.(Pandai saras style blade)

Not sure who actually made the keris but I bough them in mid 1990s from the well known keris maker "Pok Ya" who was also dead much earlier than stopa.

Very happy to hear any comments and criticisms from any of you.

Henk · 29th July 2015, 05:24 PM

Green,

After seeing so many coteng keris in this thread and the knowledge that these are still made in your area gives me a good feeling. What i see is very good craftmanship on the dresses. The blades, although from a picture hard to see and to Judge, look fine as well.

27th July 2015, 04:09 PM	#1
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 321	i come from kota baru kelantan malaysia which is just 40 km from sungai kolok town in the southern thailand province of narathiwat. My dialect, culture and food are almost identical to the southern malay thais but sadly with the separation of the 3 southern province of thailand with my state and country our culture has become further and further apart. with regards to keris, the keris making culture and collection still survives in my state but there are very few good empus/pandai besi/keris makers around now and all they do is just making copies of existing styles particularly pandai saras and malelas. Last edited by Rick; 28th July 2015 at 03:13 AM. Reason: Offensive remark .

27th July 2015, 04:27 PM	#2
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	keris Hi! I come into contact with the Keris by accident as I was helping a Mainland China tourist girl translates when she wants to buy a Keris for her husband. It surprised me that a Mainland Chinese from so far away is keen on a Keris From SE Asia, which aroused my curiosity and later understanding on the keris. Really love the keris as well as my weekly get together with fellow Thai collectors...

28th July 2015, 12:36 PM	#4
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 321	Henk ; Here are 3 examples from my collection. The blades and scabbards are made locally (by Kelantan Malays), and one of the hilts (the elephant molar) I know for sure was made here in the mid 1990s. Keris 1) Malela. Made by Stopa (Mustafa) who has now passed away several years ago The keris was forged by Mazlan who is now still living and very well known here. Stopa did the second part, the chiselling (canai) and finish. keris made by Mazlan/stopa team is highly sought after and valued here. Keris 2) "Anak Alang" (poorly maintained blade) Keris 3) Tajong.(Pandai saras style blade) Not sure who actually made the keris but I bough them in mid 1990s from the well known keris maker "Pok Ya" who was also dead much earlier than stopa. Very happy to hear any comments and criticisms from any of you. Attached Images

27th July 2015, 06:21 PM	#3
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Green, I think if you could place some pictures of the keris made in your state, although they are copies and new ones, would satisfy our curiousity and give us an idea of the quality of these craftsmen.

29th July 2015, 05:24 PM	#5
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Green, After seeing so many coteng keris in this thread and the knowledge that these are still made in your area gives me a good feeling. What i see is very good craftmanship on the dresses. The blades, although from a picture hard to see and to Judge, look fine as well.