Kris Hilt Removal

Spunjer · 20th December 2005, 10:30 PM

WARNING! this is kinda aggressive!

i place the metal tray in our oven as close as i can to the top and set it to broil. i then place the sword blade first in the oven making sure the handle is out of the oven. this is important! oh, you need the Ov Glove coz it gets pretty hot. or maybe a real thick oven mitts. once it gets hot, remove the sword and wiggle the blade from handle. keep repeating until it comes off...

ThePepperSkull · 23rd August 2011, 11:04 PM

^ Just curious, that doesn't ruin the temper of the blade at all, does it?

(I don't think it does since you need to heat a blade up to an extreme heat but just wanna make sure)

Battara · 24th August 2011, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePepperSkull

^ Just curious, that doesn't ruin the temper of the blade at all, does it?

(I don't think it does since you need to heat a blade up to an extreme heat but just wanna make sure)

No you are right in that it takes a lot of heat to kill the temper.

Spunjer · 24th August 2011, 05:42 AM

...or if you can get a hold of a heat gun. i got one that's rated to 700deg. these types of heat gun are use to strip paint. you can localize the heat this way...
aim the gun about 3 or 4 inches below the handle base. when you see the resin start to bubble at the base of the handle, it's ready. jiggle the handle slowly and gently. it'll come loose.
yeah, don't forge to wear a kevlar glove a well. it can get pretty hot.

TimW · 24th August 2011, 07:42 AM

Average tempering temperaturs of carbon steel blades is approx 200 ° C for a cutting tool; when tempering machetes and swords one wants more flexibility and uses higher temperatures. Blank metal at 200 ° will get a distinctive pale straw colour (surface oxidation). So beware!

ThePepperSkull · 25th January 2012, 07:44 PM

^ With this in mind, Ideally how hot do i want my oven to be when I use this hilt removal method? Not over 200 celsius I'm guessing?

What if the kris has copper/silver inlay? Do those metals have a lower melting point and do I risk 'melting' them out of the blade? (I ask because I have a maranao blade with silver inlay that's attatched to an indonesian golok hilt. How the two got together is a mystery to me. I may leave it as-it because it's interesting though. And I don't have a kris hilt handy to go with it)

Battara · 25th January 2012, 11:26 PM

If you do it with low heat the inlay will be fine. If you use a blow torch, then BE VERY VERY CAREFUL since it could have the heat (like an acetalyne or map gas torch) to melt the inlays.

Rick · 25th January 2012, 11:26 PM

I would not put any edged weapon in a 392f oven .

This whole idea scares the daylights out of me .

Much safer, IMO, to apply heat to the base of the blade where temper/hardness is not as important .

No torches !!

25th January 2012, 07:44 PM	#6
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	^ With this in mind, Ideally how hot do i want my oven to be when I use this hilt removal method? Not over 200 celsius I'm guessing? What if the kris has copper/silver inlay? Do those metals have a lower melting point and do I risk 'melting' them out of the blade? (I ask because I have a maranao blade with silver inlay that's attatched to an indonesian golok hilt. How the two got together is a mystery to me. I may leave it as-it because it's interesting though. And I don't have a kris hilt handy to go with it) Last edited by ThePepperSkull; 25th January 2012 at 08:01 PM.

20th December 2005, 10:30 PM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	WARNING! this is kinda aggressive! i place the metal tray in our oven as close as i can to the top and set it to broil. i then place the sword blade first in the oven making sure the handle is out of the oven. this is important! oh, you need the Ov Glove coz it gets pretty hot. or maybe a real thick oven mitts. once it gets hot, remove the sword and wiggle the blade from handle. keep repeating until it comes off...

23rd August 2011, 11:04 PM	#2
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	^ Just curious, that doesn't ruin the temper of the blade at all, does it? (I don't think it does since you need to heat a blade up to an extreme heat but just wanna make sure)

24th August 2011, 05:42 AM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	...or if you can get a hold of a heat gun. i got one that's rated to 700deg. these types of heat gun are use to strip paint. you can localize the heat this way... aim the gun about 3 or 4 inches below the handle base. when you see the resin start to bubble at the base of the handle, it's ready. jiggle the handle slowly and gently. it'll come loose. yeah, don't forge to wear a kevlar glove a well. it can get pretty hot.

24th August 2011, 07:42 AM	#5
TimW Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 54	Average tempering temperaturs of carbon steel blades is approx 200 ° C for a cutting tool; when tempering machetes and swords one wants more flexibility and uses higher temperatures. Blank metal at 200 ° will get a distinctive pale straw colour (surface oxidation). So beware!

25th January 2012, 11:26 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	If you do it with low heat the inlay will be fine. If you use a blow torch, then BE VERY VERY CAREFUL since it could have the heat (like an acetalyne or map gas torch) to melt the inlays.

25th January 2012, 11:26 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	I would not put any edged weapon in a 392f oven . This whole idea scares the daylights out of me . Much safer, IMO, to apply heat to the base of the blade where temper/hardness is not as important . No torches !!