Highly unusual "Moro" kris/keris

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by David

hmmmm....i am afraid that very little of this blade looks either Bugis or Peninsula to me, especially when you look specifically at the kembang kacang and the greneng, though this is a tough photo to make too many exacting observations about.
I would certainly need to examine this more closely, but Kai might be on the right track considering the possibility that it is Moro made in the likeness of an Indo keris.

I am as well not sure and never would put my hand in fire for this. But when I remember correct we have discussed some time ago a similar blade with such a "cut out" kembang kacang. Very unusual kris and I am not very surprised that this piece don't went high by the auction.

Regards,
Detlef

[Spunjer]

possibility that it was put together for a boy? just thinking out loud... actually more of a dagger than a sword.
i have a similar size kris. notice the somewhat similarity on the pommel shape.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17109

[Battara]

Remember too that there was a lot of trade between the Indonesian islands and the Moro Philippines.

[kai]

Hello Jose,

Remember too that there was a lot of trade between the Indonesian islands and the Moro Philippines.

Yes, this is well noted. However, if this were an Indo (or Malay) trade keris blade, one would expect it to be a rather common style and not a kinda unique piece...

Regards,
Kai

[kai]

Hello Ron,

i have a similar size kris. notice the somewhat similarity on the pommel shape.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17109

Thanks for the link - good to have this one for comparison!

Actually, how does your kris grip feel when utilising it for stabbing?

I'm not positive that I'd call both pommels being stylistically similar/related though (except for restrictions due to diminutive size).

Regards,
Kai

[David]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

possibility that it was put together for a boy? just thinking out loud... actually more of a dagger than a sword.
i have a similar size kris. notice the somewhat similarity on the pommel shape.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17109

I think the real difference here Ron is that your blade looks 100% Moro while this most certainly does not.
Again, i hate to make too many judgements based on this one unclear photo, but the iron color and style of this pamor looks a bit like more contemporary Madura efforts and made me also wonder if this isn't old Moro dress married to a more recent Indonesian blade.