Catalogue of my collection

nechesh · 18th December 2005, 09:13 PM

I think Mans is probably right. In fact, i think both these Siva hilted keris are probably Balinese.

nechesh · 19th December 2005, 03:16 PM

Here is another Pasisir example posted on Adni site. Adni identifies it as Ganesha and if you look closely you can make out what could be an the elephant's trunk. Certainly all the variations on these vegetal motif hilts are not intended to be raksasa.
http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/han...ganesh_112.htm
This is why i wonder if at least the first two examples of Jensen's that Kai Wee posted (not counting the Sivas) are indeed meant to be a different demon or deity. That first one still looks like hanuman to me.

Mans · 20th December 2005, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by nechesh

........ That first one still looks like hanuman to me.

Hanuman is White Monkey Warrior. He has a leader of Monkey warriors.
Did you look the face of 1st hilt resemble with Monkey

I think nearer as a little Raksaksha

Perhaps the maker has an imagination by him self

nechesh · 20th December 2005, 04:05 AM

i think the first ABSTRACT hilt has a head that very much resembles a monkey's, not the ivory hilt. The first two ivory hilts are strictly representational and are very likely Siva as Jensen states. Are we talking about the same hilt Mans?

Mans · 20th December 2005, 03:17 PM

I mean the 3rd hilt from Shiva hilt on the top. This hilt has a little smile on it face. If Hanuman, it must be has snout which more protrude than this one

18th December 2005, 09:13 PM	#1
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	I think Mans is probably right. In fact, i think both these Siva hilted keris are probably Balinese.

19th December 2005, 03:16 PM	#2
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Here is another Pasisir example posted on Adni site. Adni identifies it as Ganesha and if you look closely you can make out what could be an the elephant's trunk. Certainly all the variations on these vegetal motif hilts are not intended to be raksasa. http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/han...ganesh_112.htm This is why i wonder if at least the first two examples of Jensen's that Kai Wee posted (not counting the Sivas) are indeed meant to be a different demon or deity. That first one still looks like hanuman to me.

20th December 2005, 04:05 AM	#4
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	i think the first ABSTRACT hilt has a head that very much resembles a monkey's, not the ivory hilt. The first two ivory hilts are strictly representational and are very likely Siva as Jensen states. Are we talking about the same hilt Mans?

20th December 2005, 03:17 PM	#5
Mans Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Java Posts: 137	I mean the 3rd hilt from Shiva hilt on the top. This hilt has a little smile on it face. If Hanuman, it must be has snout which more protrude than this one