Peruvian/Inca war club?

Tim Simmons · 9th May 2015, 05:13 PM

Just an add on to an interesting subject.

http://aliciapatterson.org/stories/l...estroying-past

stekemest · 9th May 2015, 06:50 PM

I have to say that I bought this object (very cheaply) from a collector I personally know, who said he himself obtained it from an antiques dealer in Europe. Don't know where it originall comes from, but it must have been around in Europe for some time.

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Well that looks like vandalism to me. Must be done so it can stand on edge.

I think you are right. I have just noticed that not only the broken spike is ground off, but also the end of one of the intact spikes. You can see it on the picture. Bad vandalism, but that at least betters its chances of being an original.

Thank you all for your help.

VANDOO · 10th May 2015, 07:34 AM

TWO POSSIBILITY'S OTHER THAN MORE RECENT VANDALISM. #. IT COULD HAVE BEEN CAST THIS WAY FOR USE AS A HAMMER. OR MADE THIS WAY SO YOU COULD STRIKE A ENEMY AND NOT KILL BUT STUN FOR USE AS A SACRIFICE OR SLAVE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF PATINA WOULD FORM ON BRONZE OR COPPER WITHOUT KNOWING THE CONDITIONS THIS WAS FOUND IN BASED ON EXAMPLES AS FOUND IN SITU.

stekemest · 10th May 2015, 10:55 AM

That's right, but in view of the manipulations on one of the intact spikes (last picture), I think it is more likely that it was done so that it can stand on edge, which it perfectly does. The patina was probably removed by the same guy.

ashoka · 10th May 2015, 11:07 AM

indeed..

9th May 2015, 05:13 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,745	"It's hard to sell ceramics these days. Too much of it is on the market Just an add on to an interesting subject. http://aliciapatterson.org/stories/l...estroying-past

10th May 2015, 07:34 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	TWO POSSIBILITY'S OTHER THAN MORE RECENT VANDALISM. #. IT COULD HAVE BEEN CAST THIS WAY FOR USE AS A HAMMER. OR MADE THIS WAY SO YOU COULD STRIKE A ENEMY AND NOT KILL BUT STUN FOR USE AS A SACRIFICE OR SLAVE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF PATINA WOULD FORM ON BRONZE OR COPPER WITHOUT KNOWING THE CONDITIONS THIS WAS FOUND IN BASED ON EXAMPLES AS FOUND IN SITU.

10th May 2015, 10:55 AM	#4
stekemest Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 182	That's right, but in view of the manipulations on one of the intact spikes (last picture), I think it is more likely that it was done so that it can stand on edge, which it perfectly does. The patina was probably removed by the same guy.

10th May 2015, 11:07 AM	#5
ashoka Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 61	indeed..