ANOTHER BANDOLIER...Origins please?

kahnjar1 · 6th May 2015, 06:24 AM

Don't personally think Arabian. More likely Ottoman/Caucasus region IMHO, but then I am no expert in these.

kahnjar1 · 7th May 2015, 09:05 AM

No thoughts?

Kubur · 7th May 2015, 09:13 AM

Like you, no more ideas... Watch this Omani one...

kahnjar1 · 7th May 2015, 09:17 AM

Yes that is Omani, but nothing like the one I was requesting information on.

rickystl · 9th May 2015, 08:15 PM

Hi Stu.
Me think it's trying to grow legs to walk/swim to MY house. LOL!!
That is very cool!! And would go perfectly with MY Jazail. LOL!!
My guess is Afghan or Ottoman. Unlike the metal Ottoman/Greek bullet containers used to carry pre-formed combustible type cartridges (powder/paper/ball), the wood containers look like they were designed to carry just pre-measured powder charges. And a very clever design with the fabric/leather fold over stoppers. It looks like the buckle has a roller. That might place it a bit latter in the 19th Century (?).
A VERY neat item. Congrats.
Rick.

kahnjar1 · 9th May 2015, 10:03 PM

Hi Rick,
The sellers description was AFGHAN but I am more inclined to think Ottoman. The containers are wood, so likely to be for measured doses of powder rather than complete cartridges. The stoppers are totally leather--no woolfibre stoppers as in the Omani bandolier which I have in my collection and YES the buckle has a roller.
Here are pics of two similar shaped bandoliers sold by Hermann Historica, and described as Ottoman.
Stu

rickystl · 10th May 2015, 05:44 PM

Hi Stu.
Based on these two photos, it does appear to be Ottoman. The gold/silver stitch design sure looks Ottoman. Again, very good find.
Also, if we determine the origin is Ottoman, we could conclude that it would look really good with MY Ottoman Tufuk Rifle I recently posted. LOL !!

Rick.

7th May 2015, 09:13 AM	#3
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Like you, no more ideas... Watch this Omani one... Attached Images

9th May 2015, 10:03 PM	#6
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,786	Hi Rick, The sellers description was AFGHAN but I am more inclined to think Ottoman. The containers are wood, so likely to be for measured doses of powder rather than complete cartridges. The stoppers are totally leather--no woolfibre stoppers as in the Omani bandolier which I have in my collection and YES the buckle has a roller. Here are pics of two similar shaped bandoliers sold by Hermann Historica, and described as Ottoman. Stu Attached Images

6th May 2015, 06:24 AM	#1
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,786	Don't personally think Arabian. More likely Ottoman/Caucasus region IMHO, but then I am no expert in these.

7th May 2015, 09:05 AM	#2
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,786	No thoughts?

7th May 2015, 09:17 AM	#4
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,786	Yes that is Omani, but nothing like the one I was requesting information on.

9th May 2015, 08:15 PM	#5
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,630	Hi Stu. Me think it's trying to grow legs to walk/swim to MY house. LOL!! That is very cool!! And would go perfectly with MY Jazail. LOL!! My guess is Afghan or Ottoman. Unlike the metal Ottoman/Greek bullet containers used to carry pre-formed combustible type cartridges (powder/paper/ball), the wood containers look like they were designed to carry just pre-measured powder charges. And a very clever design with the fabric/leather fold over stoppers. It looks like the buckle has a roller. That might place it a bit latter in the 19th Century (?). A VERY neat item. Congrats. Rick.

10th May 2015, 05:44 PM	#7
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,630	Hi Stu. Based on these two photos, it does appear to be Ottoman. The gold/silver stitch design sure looks Ottoman. Again, very good find. Also, if we determine the origin is Ottoman, we could conclude that it would look really good with MY Ottoman Tufuk Rifle I recently posted. LOL !! Rick.