ANOTHER BANDOLIER...Origins please?

Kubur · 5th May 2015, 07:14 AM

Hi,
Just few comments, the top looks like Ottoman embroidery and tapestry nails remind me Morocco or South Yemen Hadramawt. If I have to choose I will say Hadramawt.
Kubur

kahnjar1 · 6th May 2015, 06:24 AM

Don't personally think Arabian. More likely Ottoman/Caucasus region IMHO, but then I am no expert in these.

kahnjar1 · 7th May 2015, 09:05 AM

No thoughts?

Kubur · 7th May 2015, 09:13 AM

Like you, no more ideas... Watch this Omani one...

kahnjar1 · 7th May 2015, 09:17 AM

Yes that is Omani, but nothing like the one I was requesting information on.

rickystl · 9th May 2015, 08:15 PM

Hi Stu.
Me think it's trying to grow legs to walk/swim to MY house. LOL!!
That is very cool!! And would go perfectly with MY Jazail. LOL!!
My guess is Afghan or Ottoman. Unlike the metal Ottoman/Greek bullet containers used to carry pre-formed combustible type cartridges (powder/paper/ball), the wood containers look like they were designed to carry just pre-measured powder charges. And a very clever design with the fabric/leather fold over stoppers. It looks like the buckle has a roller. That might place it a bit latter in the 19th Century (?).
A VERY neat item. Congrats.
Rick.

kahnjar1 · 9th May 2015, 10:03 PM

Hi Rick,
The sellers description was AFGHAN but I am more inclined to think Ottoman. The containers are wood, so likely to be for measured doses of powder rather than complete cartridges. The stoppers are totally leather--no woolfibre stoppers as in the Omani bandolier which I have in my collection and YES the buckle has a roller.
Here are pics of two similar shaped bandoliers sold by Hermann Historica, and described as Ottoman.
Stu

7th May 2015, 09:13 AM	#4
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Like you, no more ideas... Watch this Omani one... Attached Images

9th May 2015, 10:03 PM	#7
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,786	Hi Rick, The sellers description was AFGHAN but I am more inclined to think Ottoman. The containers are wood, so likely to be for measured doses of powder rather than complete cartridges. The stoppers are totally leather--no woolfibre stoppers as in the Omani bandolier which I have in my collection and YES the buckle has a roller. Here are pics of two similar shaped bandoliers sold by Hermann Historica, and described as Ottoman. Stu Attached Images

5th May 2015, 07:14 AM	#1
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi, Just few comments, the top looks like Ottoman embroidery and tapestry nails remind me Morocco or South Yemen Hadramawt. If I have to choose I will say Hadramawt. Kubur

6th May 2015, 06:24 AM	#2
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,786	Don't personally think Arabian. More likely Ottoman/Caucasus region IMHO, but then I am no expert in these.

7th May 2015, 09:05 AM	#3
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,786	No thoughts?

7th May 2015, 09:17 AM	#5
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,786	Yes that is Omani, but nothing like the one I was requesting information on.

9th May 2015, 08:15 PM	#6
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,630	Hi Stu. Me think it's trying to grow legs to walk/swim to MY house. LOL!! That is very cool!! And would go perfectly with MY Jazail. LOL!! My guess is Afghan or Ottoman. Unlike the metal Ottoman/Greek bullet containers used to carry pre-formed combustible type cartridges (powder/paper/ball), the wood containers look like they were designed to carry just pre-measured powder charges. And a very clever design with the fabric/leather fold over stoppers. It looks like the buckle has a roller. That might place it a bit latter in the 19th Century (?). A VERY neat item. Congrats. Rick.