Breech loading 1450-1550

Marcus den toom · 11th April 2015, 08:13 AM

Hi my fellow Dutchman

Welcome to this forum and congratulations on that amazing breech loading cannon. I never saw this one before, it looks like a cannon i found in this illustration from the manuscript "Ms. germ. qu. 14 (Ausst. 48) - Rüst- und Feuerwerksbuch" Made in around the 1500s. That decoration was in use quit a while if i am not mistaken, but i too never saw it on such a cannon before. I would however dare to say that this cannon was originally made somewhere in Germany, but correct me (anyone) if i am wrong)

http://sammlungen.ub.uni-frankfurt.d...leinfo/3656793

cel7 · 11th April 2015, 09:29 AM

Thanks Marcus, that's a very interesting book!
Found these pictures of examples in the Army museum in Brussel, look also very similar.

Marcus den toom · 15th April 2015, 01:06 PM

Hi Cel7,

Those are indeed very nice

It seems that the national military museum in the Netherlands that just reopend has some beautiful stuff as well. I still need to plan my visit.
Could you please send me a personal message (i can't send one to you, your acount is ristricted somehow).

Those at the Belgium museum are generally dated to 1450s, but i would date them to be somewhat more recent at 1490-1500s.

These canons do match as well and can be found at Harley Ms 4425 at page 139R (link, right top side you can select the page) http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer....ms_4425_fs001r

I wish i could show the picture here, but i am no longer allowed to use my trusted picture uploader... and i don't understand how i can upload pictures from my pc anymore, sorry about that.

Best,
Marcus

Marcus den toom · 15th April 2015, 01:09 PM

Figured it out, i think.. sadly i had to reduce the quality of the picture for it to fit the forums specs.

fernando · 15th April 2015, 05:34 PM

Dear Marcus,
I am surprised that, after a while, you are not acquainted with the forum 'Manage Attachments' features, placed in the the 'Aditional Options' section, when you submit a post.
Haven't you read this:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14688.
You will find that the pictures size allowed is the most convenient for a full screen.
If anything wrong, just tell

MVG

11th April 2015, 09:29 AM	#2
cel7 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 157	Thanks Marcus, that's a very interesting book! Found these pictures of examples in the Army museum in Brussel, look also very similar. Attached Images

15th April 2015, 01:09 PM	#4
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Figured it out, i think.. sadly i had to reduce the quality of the picture for it to fit the forums specs. Attached Images

11th April 2015, 08:13 AM	#1
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Hi my fellow Dutchman Welcome to this forum and congratulations on that amazing breech loading cannon. I never saw this one before, it looks like a cannon i found in this illustration from the manuscript "Ms. germ. qu. 14 (Ausst. 48) - Rüst- und Feuerwerksbuch" Made in around the 1500s. That decoration was in use quit a while if i am not mistaken, but i too never saw it on such a cannon before. I would however dare to say that this cannon was originally made somewhere in Germany, but correct me (anyone) if i am wrong) http://sammlungen.ub.uni-frankfurt.d...leinfo/3656793

15th April 2015, 01:06 PM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Hi Cel7, Those are indeed very nice It seems that the national military museum in the Netherlands that just reopend has some beautiful stuff as well. I still need to plan my visit. Could you please send me a personal message (i can't send one to you, your acount is ristricted somehow). Those at the Belgium museum are generally dated to 1450s, but i would date them to be somewhat more recent at 1490-1500s. These canons do match as well and can be found at Harley Ms 4425 at page 139R (link, right top side you can select the page) http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer....ms_4425_fs001r I wish i could show the picture here, but i am no longer allowed to use my trusted picture uploader... and i don't understand how i can upload pictures from my pc anymore, sorry about that. Best, Marcus

15th April 2015, 05:34 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Dear Marcus, I am surprised that, after a while, you are not acquainted with the forum 'Manage Attachments' features, placed in the the 'Aditional Options' section, when you submit a post. Haven't you read this: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14688. You will find that the pictures size allowed is the most convenient for a full screen. If anything wrong, just tell MVG