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Old 10th April 2015, 09:07 PM   #1
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Hi, this is my first post on this forum. I live in the Netherlands and have a broad interest in European history and warfare through the ages.

Few weeks ago i bought this cannon wich was original unearthed in the surrounding of Nijmegen. The man i bought it from, kept it in his barn for 40 years.

Maybe some of you have already seen it on a other forum where i posted it.

I saw this great tread about 15e century cannons, so perhaps may recognize one of the members this specific type. I have already received some very good info on the other forum but maybe someone can tell if there is a name for this type of short cannon and what the purpose was (defensive, offensive?).

It's Forged, 54cm long and the bore has a caliber of 11,5cm. Its a breech loader with an internal ring in the breech end. The strange thing is, and i can not find it on other ones, that it has zigzag decoration on the rings. Not all the way around but 3/4 of the diameter. My gues is that the part that lay in the mount was left smooth. According to a specialist on the other forum "not arsenal made". What is your opinion?
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Old 11th April 2015, 08:13 AM   #2
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Hi my fellow Dutchman
Welcome to this forum and congratulations on that amazing breech loading cannon. I never saw this one before, it looks like a cannon i found in this illustration from the manuscript "Ms. germ. qu. 14 (Ausst. 48) - Rüst- und Feuerwerksbuch" Made in around the 1500s. That decoration was in use quit a while if i am not mistaken, but i too never saw it on such a cannon before. I would however dare to say that this cannon was originally made somewhere in Germany, but correct me (anyone) if i am wrong)

http://sammlungen.ub.uni-frankfurt.d...leinfo/3656793


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Old 11th April 2015, 09:29 AM   #3
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Thanks Marcus, that's a very interesting book!
Found these pictures of examples in the Army museum in Brussel, look also very similar.
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Old 15th April 2015, 01:06 PM   #4
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Hi Cel7,

Those are indeed very nice
It seems that the national military museum in the Netherlands that just reopend has some beautiful stuff as well. I still need to plan my visit.
Could you please send me a personal message (i can't send one to you, your acount is ristricted somehow).

Those at the Belgium museum are generally dated to 1450s, but i would date them to be somewhat more recent at 1490-1500s.

These canons do match as well and can be found at Harley Ms 4425 at page 139R (link, right top side you can select the page) http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer....ms_4425_fs001r

I wish i could show the picture here, but i am no longer allowed to use my trusted picture uploader... and i don't understand how i can upload pictures from my pc anymore, sorry about that.

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Old 15th April 2015, 01:09 PM   #5
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Figured it out, i think.. sadly i had to reduce the quality of the picture for it to fit the forums specs.
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Old 15th April 2015, 05:34 PM   #6
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Dear Marcus,
I am surprised that, after a while, you are not acquainted with the forum 'Manage Attachments' features, placed in the the 'Aditional Options' section, when you submit a post.
Haven't you read this:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14688.
You will find that the pictures size allowed is the most convenient for a full screen.
If anything wrong, just tell
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