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11th December 2005, 08:11 PM
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Ok, thanks, useful pictures again...
 So I measured it well... sad thing is that I can't find examples of skirted krugs... So my one will be semi-fantasy, it seems... Krug-inspired mail&plates harness, huh. But if that's the case, I will add the integrated m&p sleeves and the standing collar... it won't make it less authentic.  BTW, would this pass as Allah? Oh, and it's the current layout, now without the spaulders. The back disc will have more flutes... exactly 16. The armpit-plates will have reinforcing flutes, at the centerline of the triangles. The main modification was the reducing of the disc's size. The lowest plate, which is now in one place, will be in 3, reducing the krug-like look even more. Opinions? Especially, would it be possible? |
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11th December 2005, 10:14 PM
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but yes, it's legible. I see what you mean about the "skirt". It does change the appearence considerably. The bit above that is fine though. You haven't done the side pieces yet though? Here's another picture of just the front part of a krug: http://www.antiques-arms.com/catalog...roducts_id=548 |
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12th December 2005, 10:58 AM
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Well, keep in mind that I'm learning arabic only... well, about a month ago, and I have less than a hour daily for it.
No, I didn't work on it more since then... I'm going to start hammering in about 10 minutes, so I'll tire you with even more pictures...
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12th December 2005, 08:53 PM
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BTW, could you please post/send me a few (million
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12th December 2005, 10:34 PM
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I'll try, but it will mean lots of scanning.
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13th December 2005, 06:41 PM
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Hm, 25% off any item you might buy from our shop?
Side pieces are done, by now the only missing piece is the spaulder, buyer comes for test fit tomorrow, so it'll be ready in less than a week with blackening... then, I'll have to make that musculata from King Arthur, and after that, I'll have time to (at least) start my own eastren harness.
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13th December 2005, 08:56 PM
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Well first of all there are many types of Arabic scripts (or fonts if you prefer), but the most common types you see on armour and weapons are kufi, thuluth, and nastaliq. Thuluth tended to used on most Mamluk and Ottoman armour in the 15th and 16th century, Nastaliq was used on Persian and Indian armour from the 16th to the 19th century. Kufic script was used on really old Fatimid and Ayyubid artifacts (and presumably arms and armour, although virtually non survives) as well as 15th century Iranian weapons and armour. The other thing is that not all inscriptions on Islamic armour are Koranic verses or names and titles. Sometimes they are apparently meaningless jumbles of letters which actually have talismanic or "magical" meanings. Here's an example of Thuluth script on a Mamluk sword: (click on the thumbnail)   Here's Thuluth script on a 15th century Iranian "Turban helmet" http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...opolitan_1.jpg Kufic script on a 15th century Iranian Greave: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11..._Iranian_1.jpg I can't find any examples of Nastaliq script at the moment, I'll need to have a look around.
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