Turkish flintlock pistol nicely decorated

estcrh · 2nd February 2015, 12:19 PM

Cerjak, here are a pair of pistols which I have been told are Ottoman, with your two pistols on underneath for a comparison. Are there elements on mine which would identify them as being Balkan or non-Balkan?

Kubur · 2nd February 2015, 01:27 PM

Here are two pistols which I can easily associate with the Balkans.

The second one is Greek.

If I may I suggest two books

Elgood, Firearms of the Islamic world
Elgood, The Arms of Greece and Her Balkan Neighbors in the Ottoman Period

Our French friend is right, most these pistols are from the Balkans.
But you are right also, the limit is very thin, it's like some daggers or swords...
Anyway these weapons were produced for the Ottoman market!

Kubur

estcrh · 2nd February 2015, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubur

Here are two pistols which I can easily associate with the Balkans.

The second one is Greek.

Kuber, you may be right, but the owner (Met Museum) describes it thus>

Quote:

Flintlock Pistol
Date: 18th century
Culture: Balkan, lock and barrel European (probably French)
Medium: Steel, silver, gold
Dimensions: L. 20 1/2 in. (57.1 cm); L. of barrel 13 1/2 in. (34.3 cm); L. of lock 4 5/8 in. (11.8 cm); Cal. .65 in. (16.5 mm); Wt. 2 lbs 12 oz. (1304.1 g)
Classification: Firearms-Pistols-Flintlock
Credit Line: Rogers Fund, 1958
Accession Number: 58.56

but they have been wrong before or maybe they just lump all nearby countries together as "Balkan".

BANDOOK · 3rd February 2015, 06:57 AM

HERE IS MY TURKISH OTTOMON PISTOL AND A ALBANIAN MISQUELET RAT TAILED PISTOL,DURING OTTOMON RULE IN ALBANIA
REGARDS RAJESH

Kubur · 3rd February 2015, 07:24 AM

Kuber, you may be right, but the owner (Met Museum) describes it thus

Hi
Museums are always wrong, please, see previous posts!

2nd February 2015, 12:19 PM	#1
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,492	Cerjak, here are a pair of pistols which I have been told are Ottoman, with your two pistols on underneath for a comparison. Are there elements on mine which would identify them as being Balkan or non-Balkan? Attached Images Last edited by estcrh; 3rd February 2015 at 08:49 AM.

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BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	MY OTTOMON PISTOL HERE IS MY TURKISH OTTOMON PISTOL AND A ALBANIAN MISQUELET RAT TAILED PISTOL,DURING OTTOMON RULE IN ALBANIA REGARDS RAJESH Attached Images

2nd February 2015, 01:27 PM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Here are two pistols which I can easily associate with the Balkans. The second one is Greek. If I may I suggest two books Elgood, Firearms of the Islamic world Elgood, The Arms of Greece and Her Balkan Neighbors in the Ottoman Period Our French friend is right, most these pistols are from the Balkans. But you are right also, the limit is very thin, it's like some daggers or swords... Anyway these weapons were produced for the Ottoman market! Kubur

3rd February 2015, 07:24 AM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Kuber, you may be right, but the owner (Met Museum) describes it thus Hi Museums are always wrong, please, see previous posts!