NUMBERS STAMPED ON IRISH GUNS

JamesKelly · 31st January 2015, 08:45 PM

Ken Maddock noted A-N 7421 Irish registration mark would have been for county Antrim, and that each county had its own mark.

So do any of you gentlemen know what county the MF 2878 on my gun would represent?

I suppose I must sadly conclude it was probably not from County Cork, home of the late Willy Brennan

kahnjar1 · 31st January 2015, 09:03 PM

Hi James,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...unty_nicknames
If you look here you will see that County Monaghan has the nickname (among others) of "The Farney". So maybe MF is the mark of County Monaghan??
I see a name on the lock of the Blunderbus. What is that name please.
Regards Stu

JamesKelly · 1st February 2015, 12:09 AM

The name on the un-bridled lock is THOMAS No initiai, no other marks.
I happen to like the look of this gun more so than most I've seen.

Thanks for the reference. Would be interesting to hear what an Irish man had to say about this.

Been a couple of generations since my family corresponded with anyone in Ireland, and that with a Hamilton lady, I believe, somewhere in Cork.

Ken Maddock · 1st February 2015, 10:29 PM

Hi James Kelly
MF in Ireland is an unusual combination of letters
I am not sure if all registration was done by county or by police station region.
I looked up the Garda stations in Ireland, garda being the police force,and the only MF I can find is Multyfarnham a town in rural county West Meath, a midlands county.
The Royal Irish Constabulary handed all their stations to the irish Garda when we got our independence. So Perhaps this us where this blunder buss came from
Best regards from Ireland
Ken

Fernando K · 2nd February 2015, 12:50 AM

hello

The blunderbuss Kelly has "private" proofmarks the Tower of London, and crowned two crossed scepters, repeated twice.

Affectionately. Fernando K

Fernando K · 2nd February 2015, 01:15 AM

hello

The only references I found;

Thomas Woodward Handworth, 1813

Joseph Thomas of Levisham, 1817

Fernando K

CutlassCollector · 2nd February 2015, 10:38 AM

Hi,

I had this filed away - it may be of use but unfortunately it does not show an MF. Regards, CC.

Registration of Firearms (Ireland) Act of 22nd August 1843, provided for the granting of licences to the owners of firearms and required the arms to be marked under the superintendency of the County Inspector of the Constabulary Force. The letters of the mark denote the county or the county of the city or town where the arm was registered, and the number indicates the registration as specified in the licence.
AN Antrim
AR Armagh
C-W Carlow
C-N Cavan
C-L Clare
ER Cork
E-C Cork
WR Cork
W-C Cork
D-L Donegal
D-N Down
DU Dublin
F Fermanagh
G Galway
KE Keryy
K-D Kildare
K-K Kilkenny
K-S King's County
LE Leitrim
L-K Limerick
L-Y Londonderry
L-D Longford
L-H Louth
MA Mayo
ME Meath
M-N Monaghan
Q Queen's County
R Roscommon
S Sligo
NR Tipperary
N-T do.
SR do.
S-T do.
T-Y Tyrone
WA Waterford
W-M Westmeath
W-X Wexford
WI Wicklow
C-B Cork Borough
K-B Kilkenny Borough
L-B Limerick Borough
W-B Waterford Borough

31st January 2015, 09:03 PM	#2
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,789	Possible Answer Hi James, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...unty_nicknames If you look here you will see that County Monaghan has the nickname (among others) of "The Farney". So maybe MF is the mark of County Monaghan?? I see a name on the lock of the Blunderbus. What is that name please. Regards Stu

2nd February 2015, 10:38 AM	#7
CutlassCollector Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Scotland Posts: 358	MF Hi, I had this filed away - it may be of use but unfortunately it does not show an MF. Regards, CC. Registration of Firearms (Ireland) Act of 22nd August 1843, provided for the granting of licences to the owners of firearms and required the arms to be marked under the superintendency of the County Inspector of the Constabulary Force. The letters of the mark denote the county or the county of the city or town where the arm was registered, and the number indicates the registration as specified in the licence. AN Antrim AR Armagh C-W Carlow C-N Cavan C-L Clare ER Cork E-C Cork WR Cork W-C Cork D-L Donegal D-N Down DU Dublin F Fermanagh G Galway KE Keryy K-D Kildare K-K Kilkenny K-S King's County LE Leitrim L-K Limerick L-Y Londonderry L-D Longford L-H Louth MA Mayo ME Meath M-N Monaghan Q Queen's County R Roscommon S Sligo NR Tipperary N-T do. SR do. S-T do. T-Y Tyrone WA Waterford W-M Westmeath W-X Wexford WI Wicklow C-B Cork Borough K-B Kilkenny Borough L-B Limerick Borough W-B Waterford Borough

31st January 2015, 08:45 PM	#1
JamesKelly Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Michigan, U.S.A. Posts: 108	Ken Maddock noted A-N 7421 Irish registration mark would have been for county Antrim, and that each county had its own mark. So do any of you gentlemen know what county the MF 2878 on my gun would represent? I suppose I must sadly conclude it was probably not from County Cork, home of the late Willy Brennan

1st February 2015, 12:09 AM	#3
JamesKelly Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Michigan, U.S.A. Posts: 108	The name on the un-bridled lock is THOMAS No initiai, no other marks. I happen to like the look of this gun more so than most I've seen. Thanks for the reference. Would be interesting to hear what an Irish man had to say about this. Been a couple of generations since my family corresponded with anyone in Ireland, and that with a Hamilton lady, I believe, somewhere in Cork.

1st February 2015, 10:29 PM	#4
Ken Maddock Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Posts: 104	Hi James Kelly MF in Ireland is an unusual combination of letters I am not sure if all registration was done by county or by police station region. I looked up the Garda stations in Ireland, garda being the police force,and the only MF I can find is Multyfarnham a town in rural county West Meath, a midlands county. The Royal Irish Constabulary handed all their stations to the irish Garda when we got our independence. So Perhaps this us where this blunder buss came from Best regards from Ireland Ken

2nd February 2015, 12:50 AM	#5
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	hello The blunderbuss Kelly has "private" proofmarks the Tower of London, and crowned two crossed scepters, repeated twice. Affectionately. Fernando K

2nd February 2015, 01:15 AM	#6
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	hello The only references I found; Thomas Woodward Handworth, 1813 Joseph Thomas of Levisham, 1817 Fernando K