Moro Tulip Kris (need Arabic/Jawi translation please)

Battara · 30th January 2015, 04:54 PM

Oh I can agree with both of you. Though most of the pointy luk-ed kris I have seen have been later - however a particular type of pointed luk is what I have seen as later and without separated ganga.

In any case - from Fi'cha to Piang - hmmmm. Anyone else who has experience with Jawi?

Ian · 30th January 2015, 07:08 PM

Very nice find Jose.

Here is a picture from the Library of Congress that appears to show the gentleman in question seated second from left in the front row. This picture is titled "US Army Officers in Mindanao and Sulu Region 1899-1902."

Seated center could be Major General Leonard Wood, which would date this picture to 1903–1905. Van Orsdale and Wood both arrived in Cotabato in August, 1903. Van Orsdale left Mindanao August, 1905 and returned to the US.

Ian.

Sajen · 30th January 2015, 07:17 PM

Hello Jose,

very nice kris with good provenance! And like usual good restore job.

Hope that someone will be able to translate the jawi script.

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 5th February 2015, 11:55 PM

Thank you for your great help folks!

I sent out emails to other members (and former members?) for help with Jawi, but only 1 responded.

Oh well, what I have and what you have provided me is wonderful.

Many thanks again!

30th January 2015, 07:08 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,399	Very nice find Jose. Here is a picture from the Library of Congress that appears to show the gentleman in question seated second from left in the front row. This picture is titled "US Army Officers in Mindanao and Sulu Region 1899-1902." Seated center could be Major General Leonard Wood, which would date this picture to 1903–1905. Van Orsdale and Wood both arrived in Cotabato in August, 1903. Van Orsdale left Mindanao August, 1905 and returned to the US. Ian. Attached Images Last edited by Ian; 30th January 2015 at 09:24 PM. Reason: Added bio information

30th January 2015, 04:54 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,282	Oh I can agree with both of you. Though most of the pointy luk-ed kris I have seen have been later - however a particular type of pointed luk is what I have seen as later and without separated ganga. In any case - from Fi'cha to Piang - hmmmm. Anyone else who has experience with Jawi?

30th January 2015, 07:17 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,216	Hello Jose, very nice kris with good provenance! And like usual good restore job. Hope that someone will be able to translate the jawi script. Regards, Detlef

5th February 2015, 11:55 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,282	Thank you for your great help folks! I sent out emails to other members (and former members?) for help with Jawi, but only 1 responded. Oh well, what I have and what you have provided me is wonderful. Many thanks again!