Guaraní

Tim Simmons · 19th January 2015, 07:38 PM

These are clubs of the BraziIan Amazon. I got this one from a lady that works for the Brazil government (funai) a department for Indian affairs. She got this club from the Ikpeng. I believe the form is found among other near by indigenous groups. I think they are not part of the people that is the main concern of this thread?

fernando · 20th January 2015, 04:27 PM

You are right Tim. I just felt like showing a real Amerindian club example, instead of just drawings. As i said, it is a club from the Tukano tribes, which in fact are not from the Guarani/Tupi group.
On the other hand, the Guaranis are a large native people family, present in six different Brazilian States.
http://www.suapesquisa.com/musicacul..._indigenas.htm
In any case, the hero quoted in the thread was born in the 7 missions (situated in nowadays Rio Grande do Sul); thus the name attributed to such group being the Guaranis Missioneiros.
Probably such natives, being strongly influenced by Jesuits, adopted a more 'modern' type of weaponry, although the clubs relative to their ancestors would have been the Ibirapemas, as per above stilyzed drawings/paints.

Tim Simmons · 20th January 2015, 04:35 PM

The example from Berlin could be seen to relate to the forms in the drawings. Wish I had one.

19th January 2015, 07:38 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	These are clubs of the BraziIan Amazon. I got this one from a lady that works for the Brazil government (funai) a department for Indian affairs. She got this club from the Ikpeng. I believe the form is found among other near by indigenous groups. I think they are not part of the people that is the main concern of this thread? Attached Images

20th January 2015, 04:27 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	You are right Tim. I just felt like showing a real Amerindian club example, instead of just drawings. As i said, it is a club from the Tukano tribes, which in fact are not from the Guarani/Tupi group. On the other hand, the Guaranis are a large native people family, present in six different Brazilian States. http://www.suapesquisa.com/musicacul..._indigenas.htm In any case, the hero quoted in the thread was born in the 7 missions (situated in nowadays Rio Grande do Sul); thus the name attributed to such group being the Guaranis Missioneiros. Probably such natives, being strongly influenced by Jesuits, adopted a more 'modern' type of weaponry, although the clubs relative to their ancestors would have been the Ibirapemas, as per above stilyzed drawings/paints.

20th January 2015, 04:35 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	The example from Berlin could be seen to relate to the forms in the drawings. Wish I had one.