Bicol dagger for comment

Ian · 31st December 2014, 03:50 PM

Just looking through some older threads and came across post #5 by steeldust on this thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15388

"These photos are of a Dahong Palay (rice leaf) from the town of Tabaco, in Bicol, Philippines. The blade is 17" and the "tabak" was made this year. The scabbard is tied with mono filament fishing line instead of cordage. Thickness of the spine at the handle is 4.5 mm. The short sword weighs 16 oz."

The pictures are here:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...chmentid=86499
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...chmentid=86500

Without the clear attribution from steeldust, I would not have identified this as coming from Bicol. The knife itself looks all Tagalog to me. BTW, I think the classification of this knife as a dahong palay strays quite a long way from the literal meaning of the term, and again points to the frustration (and futility?) of trying to be precise with our terminology.

Ian.

Sajen · 31st December 2014, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian

Just looking through some older threads and came across post #5 by steeldust on this thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15388[indent]"These photos are of a Dahong Palay (rice leaf) from the town of Tabaco, in Bicol, Philippines. The blade is 17" and the "tabak" was made this year. The scabbard is tied with mono filament fishing line instead of cordage. Thickness of the spine at the handle is 4.5 mm. The short sword weighs 16 oz."

Without the clear attribution from steeldust, I would not have identified this as coming from Bicol. The knife itself looks all Tagalog to me. BTW, I think the classification of this knife as a dahong palay strays quite a long way from the literal meaning of the term, and again points to the frustration (and futility?) of trying to be precise with our terminology.

Ian.

Agree, nothing would let me think that this blade coming from Bicol, the scabbard maybe a little bit. Vexing is also that steeldust used two different terms for one sword. Would be interesting if both terms was given to him from the seller.

Here we have again the "name game". But it would be great already when we would be able to tell from where a blade has it's origin.

Regards,
Detlef

31st December 2014, 03:50 PM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,399	Just looking through some older threads and came across post #5 by steeldust on this thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15388 "These photos are of a Dahong Palay (rice leaf) from the town of Tabaco, in Bicol, Philippines. The blade is 17" and the "tabak" was made this year. The scabbard is tied with mono filament fishing line instead of cordage. Thickness of the spine at the handle is 4.5 mm. The short sword weighs 16 oz." The pictures are here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...chmentid=86499 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...chmentid=86500 Without the clear attribution from steeldust, I would not have identified this as coming from Bicol. The knife itself looks all Tagalog to me. BTW, I think the classification of this knife as a dahong palay strays quite a long way from the literal meaning of the term, and again points to the frustration (and futility?) of trying to be precise with our terminology. Ian.