Any Amazon collectors?

VANDOO · 11th December 2014, 04:05 AM

FIRST CONTACT OCTOBER 1996 AROUND 200 MEMBERS IN TWO GROUPS TODAY. LIVE IN WESTERN AMAZON BASIN IN JAVARI VALLEY BRAZIL. THE TRIBE PREFERS TO BE CALLED DSLALA NOT THE OTHER FORIGNER NAMES FOR THEM. LARGE CLUBS AND BLOW PIPES ARE THEIR WEAPONS AND THERE HAVE BEEN VIOLENT ENCOUNTERS WITH OUTSIDERS. THE CLUB IS VERY LARGE AND HEAVY 55 INCHES LONG, THREE QUARTERS INCH DIAMETER AT BUTT END AND 2&1/2 IN. DIAMETER AT STRIKING END. THE STRIKING END IS ROUNDED IN SHAPE LIKE A BASEBALL BAT. THIS EXAMPLE WAS MADE WITH PRIMATIVE TOOLS IN THE JUNGLES COLLECTED IN THE EARLY DAYS OF CONTACT.

VANDOO · 27th March 2015, 12:31 AM

HERE IS A LINK TO A POST ON A NICE VARIATIATION OF A KAYAPO TRIBE, CLUB AND A COUPLE OF PICTURES FOR THE REFRENCE.http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19693

fireiceviper · 21st April 2015, 12:57 AM

Found this in an ethnographic dealers gallery, he gave me more then a fair price for it.. collected before the 70s-80s

VANDOO · 21st April 2015, 05:54 PM

A VERY NICE EXAMPLE WITH ALL THE TRIBAL DECORATIONS STILL INTACT AND IN EXCELLENT SHAPE. LIKELY MADE FOR SPECIAL OCCASIONS OR CEREMONIES OR FOR A SYMBOL TO BE CARRIED BY SOMEONE OF IMPORTANCE OR BEING HONORED BY THE TRIBE. DID THEY HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON WHICH COUNTRY OR TRIBE? THANKS FOR POSTING

Tim Simmons · 22nd April 2015, 07:57 PM

I have this information on this spear taken from " AMAZONIEN Indianer der Regenwalder und Savannen, Museums der Volkerkunde Dresden 2009 " The spear illustrated was collected from the Mundurucu. It is listed as ceremonial spear 1970. I think you have a nice thing. If kept well feathers can last centuries.

fireiceviper · 29th April 2015, 02:03 AM

According to the American museum of national History its from the RIKBAKTSÁ tribe in brazil. so now we have 2 tribes

http://anthro.amnh.org/anthropology/...40.1%2F%205738

Tim Simmons · 29th April 2015, 06:37 PM

From a little research it seems that RIKBAKTSÁ is more of a culture language region rather than a specific people. Rather like the different but related peoples of the EU that speak French. This map from Wikipedia of the RIKBAKTSÁ "tribe" is in the same vicinity as the German publication so they are both correct.

11th December 2014, 04:05 AM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	DSLALA TRIBE A.K.A. CLUBBERS OR KORUBO FIRST CONTACT OCTOBER 1996 AROUND 200 MEMBERS IN TWO GROUPS TODAY. LIVE IN WESTERN AMAZON BASIN IN JAVARI VALLEY BRAZIL. THE TRIBE PREFERS TO BE CALLED DSLALA NOT THE OTHER FORIGNER NAMES FOR THEM. LARGE CLUBS AND BLOW PIPES ARE THEIR WEAPONS AND THERE HAVE BEEN VIOLENT ENCOUNTERS WITH OUTSIDERS. THE CLUB IS VERY LARGE AND HEAVY 55 INCHES LONG, THREE QUARTERS INCH DIAMETER AT BUTT END AND 2&1/2 IN. DIAMETER AT STRIKING END. THE STRIKING END IS ROUNDED IN SHAPE LIKE A BASEBALL BAT. THIS EXAMPLE WAS MADE WITH PRIMATIVE TOOLS IN THE JUNGLES COLLECTED IN THE EARLY DAYS OF CONTACT. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 11th December 2014 at 04:36 AM.

27th March 2015, 12:31 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE IS A LINK TO A POST ON A NICE VARIATIATION OF A KAYAPO TRIBE, CLUB AND A COUPLE OF PICTURES FOR THE REFRENCE.http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19693 Attached Images

21st April 2015, 12:57 AM	#3
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	found something again :) Found this in an ethnographic dealers gallery, he gave me more then a fair price for it.. collected before the 70s-80s Attached Images

22nd April 2015, 07:57 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	I have this information on this spear taken from " AMAZONIEN Indianer der Regenwalder und Savannen, Museums der Volkerkunde Dresden 2009 " The spear illustrated was collected from the Mundurucu. It is listed as ceremonial spear 1970. I think you have a nice thing. If kept well feathers can last centuries. Attached Images

29th April 2015, 06:37 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	From a little research it seems that RIKBAKTSÁ is more of a culture language region rather than a specific people. Rather like the different but related peoples of the EU that speak French. This map from Wikipedia of the RIKBAKTSÁ "tribe" is in the same vicinity as the German publication so they are both correct. Attached Images

21st April 2015, 05:54 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A VERY NICE EXAMPLE WITH ALL THE TRIBAL DECORATIONS STILL INTACT AND IN EXCELLENT SHAPE. LIKELY MADE FOR SPECIAL OCCASIONS OR CEREMONIES OR FOR A SYMBOL TO BE CARRIED BY SOMEONE OF IMPORTANCE OR BEING HONORED BY THE TRIBE. DID THEY HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON WHICH COUNTRY OR TRIBE? THANKS FOR POSTING

29th April 2015, 02:03 AM	#6
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	According to the American museum of national History its from the RIKBAKTSÁ tribe in brazil. so now we have 2 tribes http://anthro.amnh.org/anthropology/...40.1%2F%205738