Wierd pliers ?

drac2k · 2nd November 2014, 10:44 PM

Sorry, but you err again.Steve Santini , the star of "Deals from the Darkside," a man to whom you have given more exposure to than the entire run of his 13 episodes combined, labeled them "crocodile tongs." I realize that you called them "crocodile shears," however you weren't calling them "crocodile anything," before you allegedly watched his video.You can find the reference to the episode on the "Huff Post TV;" posted 12/13/2012, 7:59 AM EST.
I promised that I wouldn't further detract from this thread unless I could contribute something tangible and so here goes.........their "experts," valued the "crocodile tongs," a much better description than shears, at $6000.00 USD; now before you get too excited, theirs had teeth, so maybe your toothless pair might be worth half as much ???

Rick · 3rd November 2014, 03:02 AM

That's enough sparring gentlemen .

spiral · 3rd November 2014, 08:10 AM

[QUOTE=drac2k], however you weren't calling them "crocodile anything," before you allegedly watched his video.[QUOTE]

Ok Rick, Ill ignore his accusing me of lying, as so you wish..

I must point out the tongs are not mine though...

spiral

ps .As I said, got the term crocodile shears from...typing medieval torture equipment into google

This was first the hit....

linkt

I think one can see why I used the term crocodile .....

fernando · 3rd November 2014, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drac2k

... now before you get too excited, theirs had teeth, so maybe your toothless pair might be worth half as much ???.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiral

... Ill ignore his accusing me of lying, as so you wish...This was first the hit ...

No gladiators arena here; you know better than that. Just pass on to the next topic; this one has had it from you.

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VANDOO · 3rd November 2014, 06:00 PM

THESE TONGS MOST LIKELY SERVED A CEREMONIAL PURPOSE OR WERE SYMBOLIC SUCH AS SOME TOOLS USED AS SYMBOLS IN SOME GROUPS THE MASONS COME TO MIND. IF THE ORIGIN IS INDIA THIS IS EVEN MORE LIKELY.
SOME METAL WORKERS MAKE INTRICATE IRON OBJECTS EITHER PURELY DECORATIVE OR EVEN TOOLS TO SHOW OFF THEIR SKILLS. THIS SET OF TONGS HAS JUST TOO MANY DIFFERENT TOOLS TO BE USED IN FORGING, THEY DID NOT MAKE A SWISS ARMY KNIFE TOOL FOR BLACKSMITHS THAT I AM AWARE OF

THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT TONGS FOR DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS NOT ONE SET THAT INCORPORATES EVERY FUNCTION INTO ONE SET.
THE SAME LIKELY APPLIES TO TONGS USED IN TORTURE WHICH WERE MOSTLY MUCH LIKE REGULAR ONES IN MOST CASES. SOME WERE MADE TO LOOK MORE TERRIFYING PERHAPS OR TO SHOW OFF THE SKILLS OF THE MAKER OR FANCIER AT THE REQUEST OF THE ONE ORDERING THEM ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE ROYALTY. A RED HOT POKER FOR INSTANCE COULD BE ANY PIECE OF IRON.
AS TO TODAY'S T.V. SHOWS THE TERM REALITY SHOW IS THE LIE THEY ARE SCRIPTED AND REHEARSED NOT DONE LIVE. THEY ARE DESIGNED TO BE SENSATIONAL AND TO ENTERTAIN BUT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN TOO SERIOUSLY BUT CAN SERVE TO PIQUE ONES INTEREST TO DO SOME SERIOUS RESEARCH. WHATEVER THE TONGS IN QUESTION ARE I LIKE THEM.

fernando · 3rd November 2014, 07:26 PM

Points agreed with, VANDOO but ... it still has to be considered that, beyond all exhibiting features, it also looks as if this device had some practical use, be it cerimonial or ritual, as some of its lines look functionally intentional, while not contributing for its fantasy attitude. Meaning that the tongs "lips" don't completely close, leaving a regular gap, caused by the contour of their front ends. Also the "tubular" interior section doesn't add much to a show off feature, but as a need to fit into it something with a coinciding cross section. ... If Roy doesn't mind me to work up his pictures. .................................................. .....................

2nd November 2014, 10:44 PM	#1
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,255	Sorry, but you err again.Steve Santini , the star of "Deals from the Darkside," a man to whom you have given more exposure to than the entire run of his 13 episodes combined, labeled them "crocodile tongs." I realize that you called them "crocodile shears," however you weren't calling them "crocodile anything," before you allegedly watched his video.You can find the reference to the episode on the "Huff Post TV;" posted 12/13/2012, 7:59 AM EST. I promised that I wouldn't further detract from this thread unless I could contribute something tangible and so here goes.........their "experts," valued the "crocodile tongs," a much better description than shears, at $6000.00 USD; now before you get too excited, theirs had teeth, so maybe your toothless pair might be worth half as much ??? Last edited by drac2k; 3rd November 2014 at 01:33 PM.

3rd November 2014, 08:10 AM	#3
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	[QUOTE=drac2k], however you weren't calling them "crocodile anything," before you allegedly watched his video.[QUOTE] Ok Rick, Ill ignore his accusing me of lying, as so you wish.. I must point out the tongs are not mine though... spiral ps .As I said, got the term crocodile shears from...typing medieval torture equipment into google This was first the hit.... linkt I think one can see why I used the term crocodile ..... Last edited by spiral; 3rd November 2014 at 09:50 PM.

3rd November 2014, 07:26 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Points agreed with, VANDOO but ... it still has to be considered that, beyond all exhibiting features, it also looks as if this device had some practical use, be it cerimonial or ritual, as some of its lines look functionally intentional, while not contributing for its fantasy attitude. Meaning that the tongs "lips" don't completely close, leaving a regular gap, caused by the contour of their front ends. Also the "tubular" interior section doesn't add much to a show off feature, but as a need to fit into it something with a coinciding cross section. ... If Roy doesn't mind me to work up his pictures. .................................................. ..................... Attached Images

3rd November 2014, 03:02 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	That's enough sparring gentlemen .

3rd November 2014, 06:00 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THESE TONGS MOST LIKELY SERVED A CEREMONIAL PURPOSE OR WERE SYMBOLIC SUCH AS SOME TOOLS USED AS SYMBOLS IN SOME GROUPS THE MASONS COME TO MIND. IF THE ORIGIN IS INDIA THIS IS EVEN MORE LIKELY. SOME METAL WORKERS MAKE INTRICATE IRON OBJECTS EITHER PURELY DECORATIVE OR EVEN TOOLS TO SHOW OFF THEIR SKILLS. THIS SET OF TONGS HAS JUST TOO MANY DIFFERENT TOOLS TO BE USED IN FORGING, THEY DID NOT MAKE A SWISS ARMY KNIFE TOOL FOR BLACKSMITHS THAT I AM AWARE OF THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT TONGS FOR DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS NOT ONE SET THAT INCORPORATES EVERY FUNCTION INTO ONE SET. THE SAME LIKELY APPLIES TO TONGS USED IN TORTURE WHICH WERE MOSTLY MUCH LIKE REGULAR ONES IN MOST CASES. SOME WERE MADE TO LOOK MORE TERRIFYING PERHAPS OR TO SHOW OFF THE SKILLS OF THE MAKER OR FANCIER AT THE REQUEST OF THE ONE ORDERING THEM ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE ROYALTY. A RED HOT POKER FOR INSTANCE COULD BE ANY PIECE OF IRON. AS TO TODAY'S T.V. SHOWS THE TERM REALITY SHOW IS THE LIE THEY ARE SCRIPTED AND REHEARSED NOT DONE LIVE. THEY ARE DESIGNED TO BE SENSATIONAL AND TO ENTERTAIN BUT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN TOO SERIOUSLY BUT CAN SERVE TO PIQUE ONES INTEREST TO DO SOME SERIOUS RESEARCH. WHATEVER THE TONGS IN QUESTION ARE I LIKE THEM.