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13th October 2014, 10:11 AM
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The Omani Sayf.
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Salaams Kubur... Now this is a different quality altogether...The Omani Dancing Sword.. Mistakenly believed by many to have been used for fighting. ...Not so. This is a pageantry and dancing...wedding and special events like the religious festivals at both Eids annually... and for praising the ruling dynasty...Thus its dateable appearance can be more or less defined. Essentially the flexibility of the sword is of paramount importance... If its not flexible its not a dancer... and since there is no such fighting straight arrangement logically no straight variant in this style ever existed. In real terms the description here is Saif or Sayf with the term Kattara being reserved for the curved variant though occasionally there is another curved known internationally as Shamshir but here also called Kattara..occasionally. I have to say also that people here use the generic word Sayf or saif meaning sword ... and I hope that is not confusing...but I know it is ! On this blade which if it is showing a single fuller from the grip to the tip it would be termed a Sayf Abu Falaj ...(the one with the channel) which although Falaj is a term for a man made water course... in this it suggests a blood groove which it isnt... In fact it simply gives added flex and less weight. The squigles on the blade could be talismanic, however, Im not sure what it is meant to illustrate...A geometric sequence? or it could be after the Passau Wolf sometimes copied onto these blades... but think only of this blade as reminiscent or reflective of the old battle sword in that it was two edged and round tipped.... and used in pageants in honour of the forefathers who actually used the original Battle weapon... The Sayf Yamaani. Ariel ... Would I go into a diatribe about this dancer?...No... but 2 million Omani People probably would.  Please see The Omani Sayf...at Forum Library. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=omani+sayf Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. |
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13th October 2014, 10:43 AM
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Its a way to reduce weight while maintaining maximum strength & stiffness. Which is rather at odds with you theory that these are ceremonial toys not weapons. spiral |
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13th October 2014, 11:05 AM
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So you theorise that because they have fullers they must be fighting swords.. That is very interesting. I will forward this information to the National Museum. In reducing weight the flexibility can be better exercised in dancing and march past since the blades are lighter no?...the wrist flic easier done and the sword easier to dance with. Surely in the case of the dancing sayf the thinner the blade the more capable its flexibility. The blades are certainly not stiff... on Omani Sayfs. Without wishing to get into a wrangle on the dancer... since that could be misconstrued as argumentative... and since research is ongoing in this field across a whole spectrum of new discoveries which I am not at liberty to discuss... I will let that one simply float by... for now. Regarding the strange squigles to the throat area I recall a very interesting group of talismanic marks and another from the gun mark on an algerian weapon ... They look similar. I believe that was an incantation in shortened Arabic form in the general range of the God is Great style.. Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. |
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13th October 2014, 11:14 AM
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There a lot of wrist flicking going on alright...
I hope you take the time in this secret research to include support for all the questions previously left unanswered. .... |
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13th October 2014, 03:20 PM
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Salaams SwordsAntiqueWeapons ..You are a very highly respected dealer and specialist in ethnographic weapons. It stands to reason that you may appreciate the idiosyncrasies of Omani weapons. It is extremely easy for outsiders to confuse the theory...since they have no yardstick to go by regarding Oman. I hope I have been able to raise the curtain somewhat on the predicament surrounding these artifacts... and to show how very different has been the sword development here. They have no relationship to how weapons evolved in China or anywhere else... The specifics of the Omani Straight Sayf which as you know I claim as pageant only...are absolute. Oddly, all the weapons are joined by an invisible historical line. Peculiarly they are governed by a specific event and historically nothing is written... The key is in the Funun; The unwritten passed down by word of mouth traditions... Other keys are found in documents as yet not disclosed... but under the full examination of my research department which has exciting disclosures that will ...be interesting. Whilst not every minute aspect has been uncovered ... I believe we are almost 90 % content...uncovered.... but Forum may have to wait a while longer for the entire disclosure as at this time they are under wraps.Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi... Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 13th October 2014 at 03:54 PM. |
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13th October 2014, 02:28 PM
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Re fullering & facts not theory's...
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Doing it in a central groove fuller, will maintain stiffness of the fullered area while reducing weight. That's not a theory it is a scientific fact. Otherwise flat or leaf springs would have often ground central fullers on them & I beams would not be I shaped. It is very elementary physics. spiral |
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