Breech-Loading Swivel Gun / Cannon For Comment

[fernando]

A couple (forbidden) pictures connected with the discussed topic in the Daehnhardt farm.

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[cornelistromp]

very nice pictures, thanks, I would love to have garden like this.

the local foundries in SE Asia used local bronze patterns for the cannon decorations.
I believe this deep relief breech decoration points more into the direction of GOA I/o brunei , Malacca, Pahang or European foundries.

a specialist in these eastern patterns might be able to give definite outcome here!

best,

[Matchlock]

Exactly, Jasper,

That's a setting unimaginable to ever surpass ... !

Thanks for showing,
and best,
Michael

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by cornelistromp

very nice pictures, thanks, I would love to have garden like this.

the local foundries in SE Asia used local bronze patterns for the cannon decorations.
I believe this deep relief breech decoration points more into the direction of GOA I/o brunei , Malacca, Pahang or European foundries.

a specialist in these eastern patterns might be able to give definite outcome here!

best,

Not a usual poster here on the European Forum, but here are couple of pics of Lantaka on display at Fort Siloso, Singapore.
Stu

[fernando]

Originally Posted by cornelistromp

very nice pictures, thanks, I would love to have garden like this...

With a few more flowers, maybe ... although of another typology

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[centurion]

Your cannon looks like Javanese-pre Islamic cetbang cannon from the late Majapahit period (that ended in 1527). Javanese were making cannons from 14 century after as they have mastered mass-production of bronze.

Portuguese came to Indonesian archipelago in 1511, so probably Javanese improved their design under Portuguese influence (or vice versa?).


Decorations look like from the late Majapahit, they look like pre-Islamic period. Islamic period started in 1527.

I think that you have a very valuable piece. Lantaka, somehow similar cannon but not breech loader, was mass produced, however, cetbangs are quite rare, especially decorated like this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetbang

http://fotosulawesi.blogspot.com/201...-kerajaan.html

[dana_w]

Originally Posted by centurion

Your cannon looks like Javanese-pre Islamic cetbang cannon from the late Majapahit period (that ended in 1527). Javanese were making cannons from 14 century after as they have mastered mass-production of bronze.

Portuguese came to Indonesian archipelago in 1511, so probably Javanese improved their design under Portuguese influence (or vice versa?).


Decorations look like from the late Majapahit, they look like pre-Islamic period. Islamic period started in 1527.

I think that you have a very valuable piece. Lantaka, somehow similar cannon but not breech loader, was mass produced, however, cetbangs are quite rare, especially decorated like this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetbang

http://fotosulawesi.blogspot.com/201...-kerajaan.html

Interesting. Thanks for the info and link.

[centurion]

Another similar cannon is in Istana (Royal Palace) Panembahan Matan in Muliakerta, West Borneo, Indonesia.


http://picdeer.com/media/1467774107953559456_692286653