Kris & Sundang twist core Ganja or Gonjo

[Gavin Nugent]

Thanks Emanuel.

I do find this area of Kris, Sundang and Keris very interesting.

I am not smith but there are some very tricky methods used to obtain some very beautiful and amazing Gonjo that are often overlooked...some no matter how hard I look, I cannot fathom how they were made, equally so for the blades.

With regards to the initial image presented, visually, to me, this appears to be a good insight in to twistcore manufacture well before final forging, a thick non flattened twistcore cross section. Ric may be able to chime in here too.

Lets see what comes out of the Twistie collectors collections.

[Gustav]

Gavin, you surely have found this:

www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8087

[Gavin Nugent]

Thank you Gustav,

I did see this through twistcore searches. I am surprised the discussion ended there.

I saw a hint of twistcore Gonjo in this rare example that Maurice presented, post #25.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...stcore+Sundang

These two and mine also all share a similar chevron layering at the base of the blade or differing quality.

Of all the Moro Twistcore Kris I viewed within these pages, I could not find one twisted Gonjo.

So David, until such time a Moro example is placed here, this might suit you better in the Keris forum

[David]

Well then, let's see if this thread gets any traction here on the keris forum since this is technically an Indonesian Keris.
As was suggested earlier i believe, more images would probably be helpful to the discussion.

[A. G. Maisey]

I suggest that adequate photos of the item under discussion would help a lot.

Personally I cannot see sufficient from the posted photo to permit me to make any comment.

A full length photo of the entire keris + a close-up of the sorsoran including gonjo + a close up of the complete top and complete side of the gonjo, all photos taken in full shade would perhaps give sufficiently clear images to permit comment.

[Gavin Nugent]

Thanks David,

See what comes about this specific aspect of these Sundang types.

Gustav was good enough to bring one forth from Michael’s earlier postings...that conversation didn't amount to much after presenting the entire piece...Hopefully it might gain traction now 5 years on.
I have linked the other twistie Gongo, albeit an unclear image shown in the thread...

Other Twist core Sundang Gonjo (Or a Kris if it exists) would be more helpful to the discussion about twistcore Gonjo.

Here is the face pattern.

[VVV]

Back home again with my swords...
I have now checked all my twist core Moro Kris and Malay Keris Sundang and none, except the one in the link above, have any twist core ganja.
I find this a bit surprising because some of my Moro kris are quite old and otherwise "Keris-like".

Michael