PESH KABZ DAGGER FOR COMMENT

Lew · 25th November 2005, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

I am a bit puzzled about "Indian ricasso": all Khybers/karud I own start the edge right after the bolster.
Looks like Pakistani to me and not very old.

Ariel

The scabbard I agree is more recent but there is patina on the underside of the hilt that shows age I don't really think it is more than 60 years old but it is one mean razor sharp puppy and I am quite pleased with it. That is the problem with over cleaning stuff it makes it really hard to get a handle on it's age. The horn has the same patina as some of my WW2 Philippine bolos.

Lew

ariel · 26th November 2005, 01:04 AM

You are correct: well patinated. Couldn't see it on previous pics.
The ricasso is still a mystery.

RobT · 26th November 2005, 10:12 PM

Hi all,
What strikes me as unusual is the small step on the underside of the hilt. I don't think this is typical of the commonly seen pesh kabz hilts. Since the tang repeats this feature, I think it is more than an "artistic" afterthought and might be an indicator of a regional variant. I have a khyber knife with a similar (albeit more pronounced) step in the hilt. I have seen some Sarajevo knives where this step is exaggerated into a finger groove. Any thoughts?
Sincerely,
RobT

Ian · 27th November 2005, 05:35 PM

I was looking at that too, Rob. Also seen on some Greek knives. Curious little feature -- perhaps an Ottoman influence.

Another oddity is the curve in the blade towards the tip. Choora approach the tip in a more or less straight line, but this one has quite a curve to the edge.

Interesting discussion piece, Lew. The knife is older than would appear from looking at the blade.

Ian.

Valjhun · 17th April 2006, 10:55 AM

I found that choora photo on the net. It seems precisely alike. Is that the same dagger or another of the same type?

Lew · 17th April 2006, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valjhun

I found that choora photo on the net. It seems precisely alike. Is that the same dagger or another of the same type?

Hi Valjhun

It's the same one.

Lew

26th November 2005, 10:12 PM	#3
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 597	Atypical hilt Hi all, What strikes me as unusual is the small step on the underside of the hilt. I don't think this is typical of the commonly seen pesh kabz hilts. Since the tang repeats this feature, I think it is more than an "artistic" afterthought and might be an indicator of a regional variant. I have a khyber knife with a similar (albeit more pronounced) step in the hilt. I have seen some Sarajevo knives where this step is exaggerated into a finger groove. Any thoughts? Sincerely, RobT

17th April 2006, 10:55 AM	#5
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	I found that choora photo on the net. It seems precisely alike. Is that the same dagger or another of the same type? Attached Images

26th November 2005, 01:04 AM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	You are correct: well patinated. Couldn't see it on previous pics. The ricasso is still a mystery.

27th November 2005, 05:35 PM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,614	I was looking at that too, Rob. Also seen on some Greek knives. Curious little feature -- perhaps an Ottoman influence. Another oddity is the curve in the blade towards the tip. Choora approach the tip in a more or less straight line, but this one has quite a curve to the edge. Interesting discussion piece, Lew. The knife is older than would appear from looking at the blade. Ian.