Tlingit dagger for discussion

VANDOO · 4th August 2014, 04:18 PM

ITS GOOD TO SEE A VERY NICE EXAMPLE WITH PROVENANCE. THE TWO AREAS OF BLUE CORROSION MAY HAVE OCCURRED IN BANDS BECAUSE OF THE PRESENCE OF SOME COLORFUL TRADE CLOTH TIED IN THOSE AREAS. IT WOULD HAVE ATTRACTED MOISTURE ESPECIALLY AS IT ROTTED AND NOW HAS FALLEN AWAY OR BEEN REMOVED. THERE MAY BE SIMILAR CORROSION UNDER THE LEATHER WRAP ON THE GRIP IF IT IS THE ORIGINAL WRAP.

archer · 4th August 2014, 04:49 PM

Here's a link to a disputed study regarding Tlingit knife making. Keep in mind the Copper River is a huge source. http://www.penn.museum/documents/pub...Metallurgy.pdf

While this thread starts out with a Tlingit /Haida Shakats, it has examples of varied design changes. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13961 Oh, The double Double bladed type called shakáts, a type of “combat knife” that swung a blade both directions, unless it was used to do the actual “slave killing” along with the “ceremonial blade” then it was known as goox du een (with the slave). : Keet Gwálaa (Killer Whale Dagger) used in “ceremonial killings but never in “combat" See photo. The culture saw slaves as wealth and it is not clear to Me where ceremony ends and actual killings took place for tribal status.
Steve

4th August 2014, 04:49 PM	#2
archer Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 373	Tlingit Copper daggers Here's a link to a disputed study regarding Tlingit knife making. Keep in mind the Copper River is a huge source. http://www.penn.museum/documents/pub...Metallurgy.pdf While this thread starts out with a Tlingit /Haida Shakats, it has examples of varied design changes. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13961 Oh, The double Double bladed type called shakáts, a type of “combat knife” that swung a blade both directions, unless it was used to do the actual “slave killing” along with the “ceremonial blade” then it was known as goox du een (with the slave). : Keet Gwálaa (Killer Whale Dagger) used in “ceremonial killings but never in “combat" See photo. The culture saw slaves as wealth and it is not clear to Me where ceremony ends and actual killings took place for tribal status. Steve Attached Images Last edited by archer; 5th August 2014 at 12:31 AM.

4th August 2014, 04:18 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	ITS GOOD TO SEE A VERY NICE EXAMPLE WITH PROVENANCE. THE TWO AREAS OF BLUE CORROSION MAY HAVE OCCURRED IN BANDS BECAUSE OF THE PRESENCE OF SOME COLORFUL TRADE CLOTH TIED IN THOSE AREAS. IT WOULD HAVE ATTRACTED MOISTURE ESPECIALLY AS IT ROTTED AND NOW HAS FALLEN AWAY OR BEEN REMOVED. THERE MAY BE SIMILAR CORROSION UNDER THE LEATHER WRAP ON THE GRIP IF IT IS THE ORIGINAL WRAP.