Hunting Sword no.2

Jim McDougall · 11th June 2014, 03:59 AM

Hi Norman,
It is my understanding that hunting swords were often used by officers in campaign, and certainly in degree vice versa. The hunting sword was an important element of fashion for the gentry, which also of course included military officers. While these were important implements in the hunt, they served as well as weapons for officers, and in accord with military fashion, the blades used in the hunt, an event where the gentry and these military officers were often one in the same, embellishments might include varying motif.

I think the best descriptions of these instances and blades are in "Hunting Weapons" by Howard Blackmore, but in general, I thing the occurrence of either civilian hunt or military panoplies might be fairly common. The hunting sword also became very popular as a 'court' weapon as well.
The descriptions of these swords..hunting, court and dress swords are kind of misleading in my view as far as their actual use.

Outstanding examples you are posting here!!! Thank you!!!

All the best,
Jim

M ELEY · 11th June 2014, 04:35 AM

I'm right there with you on this one, Jim! The hanger remained popular with officers in the infantry, army and navy as well. The lack of a typical hunting motiff might hint at an officer's piece. Very nice sword!

Jim McDougall · 11th June 2014, 08:04 PM

Thanks so much Cap'n Mark!!! We know quite well that these hunting swords were profoundly at sea as well, in fact its hard to look at many of them without wondering if it had nautical associations !!

Indeed these examples are amazing, Norman again, cannot thank you enough for opening these threads with these swords. They are far too out of the limelight typically, very much like smallswords , and deserve this kind of attention.

fernando · 11th June 2014, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

... We know quite well that these hunting swords were profoundly at sea ...

Ah, go hunt the pirate, Capitão

Norman McCormick · 11th June 2014, 11:11 PM

Fernando, I think there is a "secret buccaneer" lurking behind that cool exterior of yours???

. and you must be getting close to fitting out several gun-decks all on your own.

Happy Swashbuckling,
Norman.

M ELEY · 12th June 2014, 03:38 AM

Ah, Norman, I think you do have a point here! 'Nando has a spectacular collection of rapiers and cuphilts along with cannons and bombards! Coincidence?? I think not! There were Portuguese pirates off of Brazil during the Golden Age. Fernando, have you ever been to Bahai?

fernando · 14th June 2014, 12:40 PM

You guys are terrible; hard to escape your radars

In fact, i wouldn't be surprised if one of my ancestors was a Corsair. Actually i descend from sea men, by the side of my fathers mother. The last one was a Captain in the Merchant Navy

fernando · 14th June 2014, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY

... have you ever been to Bahai?

You sure mean Bahia; where the Portuguese team starts the world cup next Monday 16th.

11th June 2014, 03:59 AM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,281	Hi Norman, It is my understanding that hunting swords were often used by officers in campaign, and certainly in degree vice versa. The hunting sword was an important element of fashion for the gentry, which also of course included military officers. While these were important implements in the hunt, they served as well as weapons for officers, and in accord with military fashion, the blades used in the hunt, an event where the gentry and these military officers were often one in the same, embellishments might include varying motif. I think the best descriptions of these instances and blades are in "Hunting Weapons" by Howard Blackmore, but in general, I thing the occurrence of either civilian hunt or military panoplies might be fairly common. The hunting sword also became very popular as a 'court' weapon as well. The descriptions of these swords..hunting, court and dress swords are kind of misleading in my view as far as their actual use. Outstanding examples you are posting here!!! Thank you!!! All the best, Jim

11th June 2014, 04:35 AM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,158	I'm right there with you on this one, Jim! The hanger remained popular with officers in the infantry, army and navy as well. The lack of a typical hunting motiff might hint at an officer's piece. Very nice sword!

11th June 2014, 08:04 PM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,281	Thanks so much Cap'n Mark!!! We know quite well that these hunting swords were profoundly at sea as well, in fact its hard to look at many of them without wondering if it had nautical associations !! Indeed these examples are amazing, Norman again, cannot thank you enough for opening these threads with these swords. They are far too out of the limelight typically, very much like smallswords , and deserve this kind of attention.

11th June 2014, 11:11 PM	#5
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,618	Fernando, I think there is a "secret buccaneer" lurking behind that cool exterior of yours??? . and you must be getting close to fitting out several gun-decks all on your own. Happy Swashbuckling, Norman.

12th June 2014, 03:38 AM	#6
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,158	Ah, Norman, I think you do have a point here! 'Nando has a spectacular collection of rapiers and cuphilts along with cannons and bombards! Coincidence?? I think not! There were Portuguese pirates off of Brazil during the Golden Age. Fernando, have you ever been to Bahai?

14th June 2014, 12:40 PM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	You guys are terrible; hard to escape your radars In fact, i wouldn't be surprised if one of my ancestors was a Corsair. Actually i descend from sea men, by the side of my fathers mother. The last one was a Captain in the Merchant Navy