Falconet ball with hole

fernando · 9th June 2014, 04:28 PM

Ken's calculation makes sense. Not that i knew how to do it but because my solid ball with 31 m/m weighs 124 grams.
Let's not assume that some smart ass made a hole in that ball of yours in order to use it as a knob or something

Matchlock · 13th June 2014, 12:26 PM

Hi Marcus,

Yes, I do have records of hollow iron balls/grenades fired from pieces of ordnance from at least the 17 through the early 19th centuries.
So your guess that that piece might be a falconet ball is also backed up by the diameter of ca. 30 mm of the piece.

Until 6 years ago, there used to be a huge and complete original breechloading falconet (German: Bockbüchse auf Lafette) in my collection. The barrel was dated 1619, the second year of the Thirty Years War, and struck with a maker's mark wuith the initals VR in a shield, Zella, Thuringia, and the Saxon coat-of-arms (Zella was part of Saxony in the 17th century). The bore was 35 mm.

The whole ensemble was purchased by the museum of the castle of Burg Stolpen, Saxonia, Eastern Germany, where it is on exhibition today.

Next to that singularly complete ensemble, the first attachment depicts my friend Armin König, who builds the finest replicas of earliest arsenal arms worldwide, many of them made after originals from my collection.

His address is
Armin König
Kirchstr. 3
D-95691 Hohenberg a.d. Eger
Bavaria, Germany
ArminKoenigHbg@aol.com
http://www.engerisser.de/Bewaffnung/.../Firearms.html

The first photo is copyrighted by Armin König, the others are copyrighted by Heinz Grodon and Hermann Historica.

Best,
Michl

Matchlock · 13th June 2014, 12:35 PM

More views of that piece of ordnance dated 1619.

Enjoy the high-quality images.

The dovetailed backsight had the size of a pack of cigarettes!

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Matchlock · 13th June 2014, 12:38 PM

The breech block and its action.

Matchlock · 13th June 2014, 03:55 PM

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Matchlock · 13th June 2014, 04:48 PM

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fernando · 14th June 2014, 05:16 PM

Beautiful machine, Michl

The balls in the illustration are all solid.
Do you have pictures of such small ammo (30 m/m) hollowed for grenade purposes ?

13th June 2014, 12:26 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Marcus, Yes, I do have records of hollow iron balls/grenades fired from pieces of ordnance from at least the 17 through the early 19th centuries. So your guess that that piece might be a falconet ball is also backed up by the diameter of ca. 30 mm of the piece. Until 6 years ago, there used to be a huge and complete original breechloading falconet (German: Bockbüchse auf Lafette) in my collection. The barrel was dated 1619, the second year of the Thirty Years War, and struck with a maker's mark wuith the initals VR in a shield, Zella, Thuringia, and the Saxon coat-of-arms (Zella was part of Saxony in the 17th century). The bore was 35 mm. The whole ensemble was purchased by the museum of the castle of Burg Stolpen, Saxonia, Eastern Germany, where it is on exhibition today. Next to that singularly complete ensemble, the first attachment depicts my friend Armin König, who builds the finest replicas of earliest arsenal arms worldwide, many of them made after originals from my collection. His address is Armin König Kirchstr. 3 D-95691 Hohenberg a.d. Eger Bavaria, Germany ArminKoenigHbg@aol.com http://www.engerisser.de/Bewaffnung/.../Firearms.html The first photo is copyrighted by Armin König, the others are copyrighted by Heinz Grodon and Hermann Historica. Best, Michl Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 13th June 2014 at 03:32 PM.

13th June 2014, 12:35 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	More views of that piece of ordnance dated 1619. Enjoy the high-quality images. The dovetailed backsight had the size of a pack of cigarettes! m Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 13th June 2014 at 03:56 PM.

13th June 2014, 12:38 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	The breech block and its action. Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 13th June 2014 at 04:10 PM.

9th June 2014, 04:28 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Ken's calculation makes sense. Not that i knew how to do it but because my solid ball with 31 m/m weighs 124 grams. Let's not assume that some smart ass made a hole in that ball of yours in order to use it as a knob or something

13th June 2014, 03:55 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	...

13th June 2014, 04:48 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	,,,

14th June 2014, 05:16 PM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Beautiful machine, Michl The balls in the illustration are all solid. Do you have pictures of such small ammo (30 m/m) hollowed for grenade purposes ?