Lionhilt Broadsword 17th Century?

cornelistromp · 8th May 2014, 06:48 PM

great find and link with the Netherlands.
this image of Carel Rabenhaubt is Dutch.

Carel Rabenhaubt
(1602 - 1675) Military, from Bohemia, who gained fame through the siege of Groningen in the Netherlands in 1672.

Through its defense plan - inundation of large areas around the city and obstruct the waterways for landing troops - he endured the siege of Munster Bishop Van Galen.
In Drenthe (province in the Netherlands) he was appointed in the same year to Drost=Sheriff in place of the incumbent drost "van Bernsaw". After the death of Rabenhaupt in 1675 van Bernsaw came back. Rabenhaupt is buried in the Reformed Church of Coevorden in Holland.

AHorsa · 27th September 2015, 03:54 PM

Dear All,

today I visited the "Klingenmuseum Solingen" and found some comparandums which I do not want to withhold from you. Sadly I only had my bad Mobile-camera with me so the image quality is pretty poor.
The sword shown in the 4th image refers very much to the example in the painting shown in #17. Interestingly the museum allocate it to Switzerland but it is shown in a painting of a dutch townguard or the like if I remember well.

@Jasper: I also went through the remarkable sword exhibition and saw your beautiful and interesting loans there!

Cheers
Andi

cornelistromp · 29th September 2015, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AHorsa

Dear All,

today I visited the "Klingenmuseum Solingen" and found some comparandums which I do not want to withhold from you. Sadly I only had my bad Mobile-camera with me so the image quality is pretty poor.
The sword shown in the 4th image refers very much to the example in the painting shown in #17. Interestingly the museum allocate it to Switzerland but it is shown in a painting of a dutch townguard or the like if I remember well.

@Jasper: I also went through the remarkable sword exhibition and saw your beautiful and interesting loans there!

Cheers
Andi

HI Andi,

beautiful pictures!
yes the hilt of the sword with the chain attached to the guard and pommel is almost certainly Dutch, as also a few of the others, I will discuss it in Solingen, when I'm there.

I lent a group of medieval swords from my collection to the museum for the exhibition „The Sword – Form and Thought“

http://www.klingenmuseum.de/_english...s-schwert.html

I myself have not been there yet. I got a flat tire on the way to the opening & damaged my car, unfortunately had to return.

there's a lot of energy and effort put into this beautiful exhibition. not by me

if you are a sword enthusiast, then one should visit this exhibition!

best,
Jasper

AHorsa · 22nd November 2018, 04:52 PM

Hi There,

I work a lot with photogrammetry and did a little test of object modelling by this sword. I would love to share the model with you. Hope you like it

https://skfb.ly/6DoEy

Cheerio
Andreas

drdavid · 22nd November 2018, 07:47 PM

Great work Andreas, that is very cool
DrD

fernando · 22nd November 2018, 07:56 PM

Excelent, no doubt

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M ELEY · 25th November 2018, 08:12 AM

I had forgotten about this great thread on the Dutch 'lion hilt' swords. Here is an example from my collection, graciously identified by Jasper back in the day!

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11701

27th September 2015, 03:54 PM	#2
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	Dear All, today I visited the "Klingenmuseum Solingen" and found some comparandums which I do not want to withhold from you. Sadly I only had my bad Mobile-camera with me so the image quality is pretty poor. The sword shown in the 4th image refers very much to the example in the painting shown in #17. Interestingly the museum allocate it to Switzerland but it is shown in a painting of a dutch townguard or the like if I remember well. @Jasper: I also went through the remarkable sword exhibition and saw your beautiful and interesting loans there! Cheers Andi Attached Images

8th May 2014, 06:48 PM	#1
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	great find and link with the Netherlands. this image of Carel Rabenhaubt is Dutch. Carel Rabenhaubt (1602 - 1675) Military, from Bohemia, who gained fame through the siege of Groningen in the Netherlands in 1672. Through its defense plan - inundation of large areas around the city and obstruct the waterways for landing troops - he endured the siege of Munster Bishop Van Galen. In Drenthe (province in the Netherlands) he was appointed in the same year to Drost=Sheriff in place of the incumbent drost "van Bernsaw". After the death of Rabenhaupt in 1675 van Bernsaw came back. Rabenhaupt is buried in the Reformed Church of Coevorden in Holland. Attached Images

22nd November 2018, 04:52 PM	#4
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	Hi There, I work a lot with photogrammetry and did a little test of object modelling by this sword. I would love to share the model with you. Hope you like it https://skfb.ly/6DoEy Cheerio Andreas

22nd November 2018, 07:47 PM	#5
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 372	Great work Andreas, that is very cool DrD

22nd November 2018, 07:56 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Excelent, no doubt .

25th November 2018, 08:12 AM	#7
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,156	I had forgotten about this great thread on the Dutch 'lion hilt' swords. Here is an example from my collection, graciously identified by Jasper back in the day! http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11701