Algerian Khodmi or Moroccan Genoui ???

Emanuel · 7th May 2014, 08:11 PM

Hi Charles,

Very nice knife!

I think this is definitely Moroccan and in the genoui style. The construction seems to me quite different from Algerian Bou-Saadi knives.

Regards,
Emanuel

CharlesS · 7th May 2014, 10:20 PM

Thanks Emanuel,

No doubt it is Moroccan style dress, just the blade with it is a bit of a mystery, but by no means incompatible, or even shocking.

Emanuel · 7th May 2014, 11:28 PM

Hi again Charles,

I was also referring to the blade construction. Lots of koummiya and genoui have the exact same blade with shallow fullers at the ricasso and back edge, but curved. I'll post some fairly illustrative examples from Oriental-Arms' archive.

Some Bou-Saadi knives also have a very shallow fuller along the edge, but they're built differently and the blade profiles are different than this knife.

Emanuel

Oriental-Arms · 8th May 2014, 11:32 AM

The “Hallmark” on the locket is most probably a date, standing for 1318 ( 1900 in the Gregorian calendar). Many Moroccan artifacts are dated in the Islamic calendar but with European numerals rather than Arabic. See for example dating on another Moroccan Koumaya dated to 1313 (1895)

CharlesS · 8th May 2014, 12:27 PM

Thanks Artzi. That makes perfect sense.

8th May 2014, 11:32 AM	#4
Oriental-Arms Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Haifa, Israel Posts: 183	The “Hallmark” on the locket is most probably a date, standing for 1318 ( 1900 in the Gregorian calendar). Many Moroccan artifacts are dated in the Islamic calendar but with European numerals rather than Arabic. See for example dating on another Moroccan Koumaya dated to 1313 (1895) Attached Images

7th May 2014, 08:11 PM	#1
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hi Charles, Very nice knife! I think this is definitely Moroccan and in the genoui style. The construction seems to me quite different from Algerian Bou-Saadi knives. Regards, Emanuel

7th May 2014, 10:20 PM	#2
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Thanks Emanuel, No doubt it is Moroccan style dress, just the blade with it is a bit of a mystery, but by no means incompatible, or even shocking.

7th May 2014, 11:28 PM	#3
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hi again Charles, I was also referring to the blade construction. Lots of koummiya and genoui have the exact same blade with shallow fullers at the ricasso and back edge, but curved. I'll post some fairly illustrative examples from Oriental-Arms' archive. Some Bou-Saadi knives also have a very shallow fuller along the edge, but they're built differently and the blade profiles are different than this knife. Emanuel

8th May 2014, 12:27 PM	#5
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Thanks Artzi. That makes perfect sense.