Saying HI and looking for some help ......

Jim McDougall · 23rd April 2014, 04:49 PM

Found it! The wood hilt is of course the M1862 Austro-Hungarian pioneer sword and the other is the one on the forum I noted. This was sold by 'Svet in 2007, and I found the thread by using 'Russian pioneer sword M1827 posted by Svet' (using Google).
He notes it is Russian in the text, but no reference further.

It would seem that the example we are discussing here is likely a combining of the original blade with this guard and an Austrian hilt.

David · 23rd April 2014, 05:00 PM

Good searching Jim. There is also this thread on Bladesmith Forum that presents an example with the same cross guard, but a somewhat different style hilt.
http://www.bladesmithsforum.com/inde...ord#entry61843

Jim McDougall · 23rd April 2014, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Good searching Jim. There is also this thread on Bladesmith Forum that presents an example with the same cross guard, but a somewhat different style hilt.
http://www.bladesmithsforum.com/inde...ord#entry61843

Thanks David, that's the one I was trying to show but I inadvertently posted the image of the standard M1827.
Wish we knew where this one came from but is a post from 2007 and the sword sold then.

David · 23rd April 2014, 07:56 PM

What is the blade length of these knives btw?

fernando · 23rd April 2014, 08:45 PM

Sorry fot being a bore, guys ...
Is this an ethno weapon ... or more probably a piece to discuss in the European section ?

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Not that its discussion will be more productive in there but ... you know, the benefit of the doubt

David · 24th April 2014, 12:55 AM

Fair point Nando…

Unlocker · 15th June 2014, 03:15 PM

that is Russian Pioneer sword Model 1797 i have few but without scabbard and one is in scabbard... maker mars is correct.

tough to find but unfotunately not many collectors for this type.

Unlocker · 15th June 2014, 03:30 PM

few of mine 1797 1824 1827

23rd April 2014, 04:49 PM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,200	Found it! The wood hilt is of course the M1862 Austro-Hungarian pioneer sword and the other is the one on the forum I noted. This was sold by 'Svet in 2007, and I found the thread by using 'Russian pioneer sword M1827 posted by Svet' (using Google). He notes it is Russian in the text, but no reference further. It would seem that the example we are discussing here is likely a combining of the original blade with this guard and an Austrian hilt. Attached Images

23rd April 2014, 05:00 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,212	Good searching Jim. There is also this thread on Bladesmith Forum that presents an example with the same cross guard, but a somewhat different style hilt. http://www.bladesmithsforum.com/inde...ord#entry61843 Attached Images

15th June 2014, 03:15 PM	#7
Unlocker Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 2	that is Russian Pioneer sword Model 1797 i have few but without scabbard and one is in scabbard... maker mars is correct. tough to find but unfotunately not many collectors for this type. Last edited by Robert; 15th June 2014 at 06:23 PM.

15th June 2014, 03:30 PM	#8
Unlocker Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 2	few of mine 1797 1824 1827 Attached Images

23rd April 2014, 07:56 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,212	What is the blade length of these knives btw?

23rd April 2014, 08:45 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Sorry fot being a bore, guys ... Is this an ethno weapon ... or more probably a piece to discuss in the European section ? . Not that its discussion will be more productive in there but ... you know, the benefit of the doubt

24th April 2014, 12:55 AM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,212	Fair point Nando…