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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: OKLAHOMA, USA
Posts: 3,138
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A BEAUTIFUL AND EXCEPTIONAL BARONG ,CONGRADULATIONS!
THE METAL WORK LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING A VERY GOOD JEWELER COULD DO. IF THE SILVER , SWASSA METAL WORK WAS DONE BY A CHINESE THAT MIGHT EXPLAIN THE MARK THOUGH I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULD HAVE SIGNED THE BLADE INSTEAD OF THE SILVER WORK. IN MANY COUNTRIES CRAFTSMEN FROM OTHER COUNTRIES OFTEN WERE THE ONES DOING THE FANCY GOLD AND SILVER WORK I WONDER IF THIS WAS THE CASE IN THE PHILIPPINES OR IF IT WAS ALL LOCAL WORK?A STROKE OF GOOD LUCK FINDING SUCH A NICE SCABBARD THAT FITS. I WOULD THINK THE ORIGINAL WOULD ALSO HAVE BEEN MADE OUT OF THIS VERY GOOD QUALITY WOOD. |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 9,490
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What can I say others don't have said already?
A real beauty, congrats Charles! Regards, Detlef |
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Room 101, Glos. UK
Posts: 4,263
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i seem to recall reading that the chinese produced good blades for the Filipino trade which were then hilted in the Philippines.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Greenville, NC
Posts: 1,854
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I believe what you have mentioned is quite true....I just don't think that this is one of those blades. When I see that mark on the smaller barong blades of the 19th century I am much more prone to believe that they may, indeed, be Chinese made and trade blades. Typically those are of very fine quality with very active pattern welding and often flashing grains. Battara has a very good example of such a piece. To my eye, for what it is worth, there is simply nothing about this blade that does not seem 100% Moro made. Additionally, note the rather crude way the mark is made, somewhat roughly chiseled into the blade. Perhaps we should post examples of other marks on blades that are attributed to Chinese manufacture?? That's an idea that will allow us some comparisons. Again, I am curious if this "character" has any meaning at all. Last edited by CharlesS; 11th April 2014 at 12:20 AM. |
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EAAF Staff
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 7,363
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So YOU'RE the one who got this!!!!
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,025
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Congrats on a very fine addition to your arsenal. I had a feeling it wouldn't take long for Gavin to tag it as sold on that listing.
With my experience, silver hilted Barungs are less common than their ivory counterpart. I only know of one other and it's in DaveS' collection. It makes me wonder why they're not as plentiful as ivory Kakatua. I don't think it would be more or less difficult than what's found on a kris, for the metal smith in crafting a silver Kakatua on a Barung. I find it hard to believe that Chinese in-scripted Barung blades were made by Chinese smiths. I question why would a Sulu get a Chinese blade when there are plenty of good Moro smiths to forge their blades. Twist cores would be a testament to their skill. I have a few Barungs with Chinese characters, when translated by a friend, the inscriptions didn't make sense. Are there other Moro blades other than Barungs with Chinese chop marks? |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Greenville, NC
Posts: 1,854
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Darn good point Kino...I have never seen those marks on anything other than barong blade. |
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EAAF Staff
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 7,363
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It would not shock me that this was a way to raise the value of the blade, since Chinese smiths may have been of greater value at one time.
It would be like "SOLINGEN" on Scottish broadswords. |
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