Incendiary device? Grenade? Or what?

fernando · 18th March 2014, 04:20 PM

Whatever you find, keep it secret from Captain Mark

Marcus den toom · 18th March 2014, 04:34 PM

hahah, maybe we can team up Nando and go dig for our own grenades

fernando · 18th March 2014, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus den toom

hahah, maybe we can team up Nando and go dig for our own grenades

Don't tease me; i may take it seriously

Marcus den toom · 18th March 2014, 08:49 PM

Well Nando, when you have some spare time...

But untill than, something i believe to be a grenade thrower or a very cruel trick on a homeless person.
http://dla.library.upenn.edu/dla/med...urrentpage=195

Matchlock · 18th March 2014, 09:42 PM

Excellent find, Marcus

,

This is from the well known book by Franz Helm, Von den probierten Künsten (on well-tried arts), 1535.

It does show a device to hurl a grenade, and the attached pages are very notable for depicting related stuff that is of interest for our thread!

Best,
Michael

Marcus den toom · 18th March 2014, 10:02 PM

Thank you Michl,

I was already pondering about the possible ways to hurl these grenades around, but i had no clue about relevant sources until i found this manuscript.

The 'red' grenade on the second image of your above post, is this some sort of rope with a grenade at the end which was hurled trough the air like a scottish highland game (sorry for the weird phrasing).

and the grenades at the bottom of the same picture, do they have secondary charges inside metal containers/explosives (there seems to be a little hole in each of the grey tubes).

Best,
Marcus

Matchlock · 18th March 2014, 10:11 PM

Hi Marcus,

The group of hardcore reenactors at the Veste Coburg, especially Armin König, knows a whole lot about these fireworks; the museum also holds some highly interesting original items. To me, these matters are a bit aside, just too far out of my trodden path.

You should contact the Veste Coburg, they certainly have good material.

Best,
m

18th March 2014, 09:42 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Excellent find, Marcus , This is from the well known book by Franz Helm, Von den probierten Künsten (on well-tried arts), 1535. It does show a device to hurl a grenade, and the attached pages are very notable for depicting related stuff that is of interest for our thread! Best, Michael Attached Images

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fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Whatever you find, keep it secret from Captain Mark

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Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 541	hahah, maybe we can team up Nando and go dig for our own grenades

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Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 541	Well Nando, when you have some spare time... But untill than, something i believe to be a grenade thrower or a very cruel trick on a homeless person. http://dla.library.upenn.edu/dla/med...urrentpage=195

18th March 2014, 10:02 PM	#6
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 541	Thank you Michl, I was already pondering about the possible ways to hurl these grenades around, but i had no clue about relevant sources until i found this manuscript. The 'red' grenade on the second image of your above post, is this some sort of rope with a grenade at the end which was hurled trough the air like a scottish highland game (sorry for the weird phrasing). and the grenades at the bottom of the same picture, do they have secondary charges inside metal containers/explosives (there seems to be a little hole in each of the grey tubes). Best, Marcus

18th March 2014, 10:11 PM	#7
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Marcus, The group of hardcore reenactors at the Veste Coburg, especially Armin König, knows a whole lot about these fireworks; the museum also holds some highly interesting original items. To me, these matters are a bit aside, just too far out of my trodden path. You should contact the Veste Coburg, they certainly have good material. Best, m