Moro Kris Swords

David · 4th March 2014, 06:26 AM

Hi Edmos. Welcome to the forum. These are all Moro kris and related blades The Keris Forum is reserved for only Indonesian keris blades so i have transferred this thread to the Ethno Forum where it will receive the proper attention.

David · 4th March 2014, 06:28 AM

I am sure you will get more feedback, but i can tell you that these are all from the latter part of the 20th century.

Edmos1212 · 4th March 2014, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by David

I am sure you will get more feedback, but i can tell you that these are all from the latter part of the 20th century.

Thanks Sir David!

David · 4th March 2014, 02:17 PM

Do you own Robert Cato's book Moro Sword? It is out of print, but copies turn up on eBay from time to time as well as online used bookstores (i use bookbinder.com). This book might be helpful in your future collecting choices.

VANDOO · 4th March 2014, 04:50 PM

WELCOME TO THE FORUM.

AS DAVID MENTIONED THESE ITEMS ARE OF MORE RECENT MANUFACTURE.
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH COLLECTING MORE RECENT WORK IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT AND THE WORKMANSHIP GOOD. IT ALSO KEEPS THE SWORD AND KNIFE MAKERS IN BUSINESS WHICH IS GOOD. YOU HAVE QUITE A SELECTION OF FORMS SHOWING MANY VARIATIONS. OVER TIME THE SOCIETY NATURALLY CHANGES AND SO DOES THE DESIGN AND WORKMANSHIP OF THE ARTEFACTS THEY PRODUCE.
I SEE SOME INDONESIAN INFLUENCE ON SOME OF YOUR ITEMS AND FEATURES FOUND MORE ON THE KERIS THAN ON MORO KRIS FORMS. THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM AS OUTSIDE INFLUENCE OFTEN COMES TO CRAFTSMEN.
A NICE COLLECTION.

DaveS · 4th March 2014, 09:51 PM

Edmos1212: I agree, they are all mostly post W.W.2, except the two that are in the second set of pictures on the far left with the short blade between them look like older blades that have been fitted with newer handles. They just seem to be of an older style, at least to my eye anyway.........Dave.

Edmos1212 · 5th March 2014, 01:19 AM

Thanks guys for your honest assessments. Admittedly, i bought them based on their aesthetic appearance than on its "antique" value (assuming there was one). Bottomline for me is that this was made by the moro people from the southern philippines (except for the keris) and is authentic rather than replicas created by other regions and/or countries like china. I would know because i did personally scour the muslim community to get these. Expectedly, i bought this at a not-so-expensive price which led me to believe from the start that this is not antique. Most of those i interacted with are maranaos. I have a tausug friend though who discovered my latest passion for swords and has promised to give to me the swords of his grandpa in sulu soon. If that happens, i'll surely post this for your comments and validation. I like this forum and this group. Made me a day wiser evvery visit. Salamat po!

4th March 2014, 04:50 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	WELCOME TO THE FORUM. AS DAVID MENTIONED THESE ITEMS ARE OF MORE RECENT MANUFACTURE. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH COLLECTING MORE RECENT WORK IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT AND THE WORKMANSHIP GOOD. IT ALSO KEEPS THE SWORD AND KNIFE MAKERS IN BUSINESS WHICH IS GOOD. YOU HAVE QUITE A SELECTION OF FORMS SHOWING MANY VARIATIONS. OVER TIME THE SOCIETY NATURALLY CHANGES AND SO DOES THE DESIGN AND WORKMANSHIP OF THE ARTEFACTS THEY PRODUCE. I SEE SOME INDONESIAN INFLUENCE ON SOME OF YOUR ITEMS AND FEATURES FOUND MORE ON THE KERIS THAN ON MORO KRIS FORMS. THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM AS OUTSIDE INFLUENCE OFTEN COMES TO CRAFTSMEN. A NICE COLLECTION. Last edited by VANDOO; 4th March 2014 at 08:17 PM.

4th March 2014, 06:26 AM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Hi Edmos. Welcome to the forum. These are all Moro kris and related blades The Keris Forum is reserved for only Indonesian keris blades so i have transferred this thread to the Ethno Forum where it will receive the proper attention.

4th March 2014, 06:28 AM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	I am sure you will get more feedback, but i can tell you that these are all from the latter part of the 20th century.

4th March 2014, 02:17 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Do you own Robert Cato's book Moro Sword? It is out of print, but copies turn up on eBay from time to time as well as online used bookstores (i use bookbinder.com). This book might be helpful in your future collecting choices.

4th March 2014, 09:51 PM	#6
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	Edmos1212: I agree, they are all mostly post W.W.2, except the two that are in the second set of pictures on the far left with the short blade between them look like older blades that have been fitted with newer handles. They just seem to be of an older style, at least to my eye anyway.........Dave.

5th March 2014, 01:19 AM	#7
Edmos1212 Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 23	Thanks guys for your honest assessments. Admittedly, i bought them based on their aesthetic appearance than on its "antique" value (assuming there was one). Bottomline for me is that this was made by the moro people from the southern philippines (except for the keris) and is authentic rather than replicas created by other regions and/or countries like china. I would know because i did personally scour the muslim community to get these. Expectedly, i bought this at a not-so-expensive price which led me to believe from the start that this is not antique. Most of those i interacted with are maranaos. I have a tausug friend though who discovered my latest passion for swords and has promised to give to me the swords of his grandpa in sulu soon. If that happens, i'll surely post this for your comments and validation. I like this forum and this group. Made me a day wiser evvery visit. Salamat po!