uyghur knives?

[spiral]

Chinese Water Melon knives are like long square dha in profile & certainly match the description. There also thin, springy & sharp

They have for a long time been triad/tong favorites at least in Hong Kong, along with the heavier shorter meat cleavers for the so called "chopping" attacks.

spiral

[AJ1356]

I am guessing they used everyday fruit vendor knives or what not. The Uyghurs are basically Central Asian Muslims whose weapon would be the same or could resemble those of Afghanistan, the stans of Central Asia and Mongolia, with some Chines influence. I was reading something else, but had mentions of when Afghan King Ahmad Shah was trying to rally Muslim support to aid the besieged Ughurs and save them from the Qing invasion in the late 1700's. The people there are Turkic in origin and the the old folks mention the area calling it Turkistan e Sharqi (Eastern Turkistan).

[TVV]

Here is a link to a threat that discussed Uyghur knives, and especially the modern productions from Yangisar.

http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread...ghlight=uyghur

Ariel posted a link to a Russian knives forum, where there is a very long threat on these with a lot of pictures even for those who cannot read Russian.

Teodor

[spiral]

I dare say it will come out in the wash, but I bet they used the cheapest mass production factory melon choppers in a bulk buy from a dime store... not a traditional hand crafted or styled ethnic product....

Spiral

[kronckew]

hard to see, but one of the knives being bagged into evidence at the grip end:


appear to be about 18+ in. blades - news mentions 50-60cm. appear single edged, have a fuller and a slightly upswept tip:

Link to source video (last video at bottom of article)

[spiral]

Interesting Kronckew .

Heres another one...From Chinese social media...

Looks like a Chinese knock off of a Japanese sword.

Spiral

[josh stout]

I appreciate the work that went into the responses. It is unfortunate that we don't have better photos of the weapons involved given the large number of truly abhorrent photos of bloody victims. As far as I can tell, the knives used were indeed a random collection ranging from kitchen utensils to what is perhaps a wallhanger. I still think that with better photos we could tell a lot about the people who commit such atrocities. As we know, weapons can tell us much about the group that wields them, and we could probably deduce how well funded they were, and if they were a local group. The one somewhat clear photo of a “Chinese katana knockoff” has some interesting characteristics that separate it from the usual copies of Japanese things. It appears that it may be local construction, and if so, someone with a knowing eye would likely be able to narrow it down to a few local makers.

And thanks to everyone for staying on topic and not getting the post locked.
Josh

[mross]

Originally Posted by spiral

I dare say it will come out in the wash, but I bet they used the cheapest mass production factory melon choppers in a bulk buy from a dime store... not a traditional hand crafted or styled ethnic product....

Spiral

I tend to agree with spiral on this one. From a USA perspective the most used knife in a murder is the ubiquitous kitchen knife. And from several knife magazine discussions on most used knife in war? The mess kit knife! People are people and they tend to use what's at hand.